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I think they will when they get rolling. For some of these, the training is in the price, and that itself is expensive. If you consider that the MK16 is at least $50,000 per copy, then some of these do not look so bad. I think the Biomarine version of the 15.5 , which I believe is called the 500, is low priced, and I know that Martin Parker's AP Vlaves "Inspiration" is very low priced. I can more accurately tell you that none of these guys will get rich making and selling recreational rebreathers. The other thing I can tell you is that there are very few situations where you need a rebreather for what a rebreather SHOULD be able to do. Other than the specfic long range cave exploration diving that I do with them, most of my rebreather time was learning various systems, and then just putting lots of time in on the Halcyon. We intentionally do unnecesarily long dives in the ocean with them by starting deeper and ending up on a shallow reef having used up two scooters and wearing out a boat crew . At first thsese things are a real novelty, then they are scary, and then they are matter-of-fact, non-nonsense machines for specific uses. I can think of several, but then the real bottom line is that I would do no dive with a rebreather that I could not get out of on scuba, and that means long hours at the track and the pool, which brings us full circle to Rule Number Three: "Don't Use a Rebreather Unless You Don't Need To" Roger Foutz wrote: > > George, > Do you ever see the price coming down to where us poor folks can afford > them? > > Roger > > At 07:24 AM 1/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Senor Amigo, you can come take your pick out of my garage: they work, > >they are for sale. You can have the Halcyon, the Halcyon 2, the Ocean > >version, the Cave version, or just an off-the-shelf version. These > >rebreathers hold the records for cave diving, along with Olivier > >Isler's, and we all use them for whatever we want to do with no hassle. > >Brownies has several in stock, I see them being used on Erol's boat all > >of the time, and Bill Mee, Robert Carmichael, Errol and I, Brent, JJ, > >Joey, Paul, Tom Mount and others have had them for a long time, as in a > >couple of years. I am on my third one. > > > >I have never aborted a rebreather dive on this thing even in the > >development stage, and have never had a problem that was not solvable > >underwater with no disrutpiopn to the dive. I can fix it myself, and it > >always works. I know exactly how much gas I am going to use, and can > >plan incredible cave dives with it at any depth. The deco is the same as > >for open circuit, and it allows any gas to be used. > > > >It is the simplest , easiest rebreather to use, and unlike the > >electronic models, I have more time with mine than the UPS drivers. The > >reason there is an imbalance between supply and demand is that the deamd > >is for things that do not exist or actually work, the magic carpets of > >diving. There are no shortcuts and "there is nothing new under the sun". > > > >If you really want to dive, get a Halcyon. If youi want to strut around > >claiming "tech", call the usual suspects. > >Roberto Bagnasco wrote: > >> > >> The more I look at this, the more I cannot believe it. > >> > >> This is is really strange situation, there are people out there with the > >> money and the will to buy a rebreather, but there is no machine to buy. > >> There is definitely a big demand and no offer. What a peculiar economical > >> situation. > >> > >> There is people out there ready to dive with a machine that has been around > >> for 20 years, there is people diving with russian machines! There is people > >> that makes their own! > >> I dive my semi closed, and we are all waiting for something that really > works. > >> I have the feeling we will have to wait a while. > >> > >> Roberto > >> > >> >-- > >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> < > > >> < > > >> < "Memento audere semper" > > >> < > > >> < > > >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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