Jim, it is impossible to discuss what we do with somebody who has no
background inderstanding, and suffers from what is called "rigid"
thinking. With "rigids", there is none of the human mind's ability to
grasp a concept, only litteral recognition is possible. For instance, if
you said, "Wow, that was a close call", to a rigid like Zmabeck, that
would mean that the phone rang nearby.

We do not swim in deep water due to the mechanical stress on the joints
from the pressure,  the other obvious DCS considerations, the problem of
eliminating CO2 in a high PPO2 environment, and the other circulatory ,
dissolved gas, and gas management issues .

 We train so that we can better handle the exposure, so that we require
less gas, and and so that when the shit hits the fan ( not if), we have
a fighting chance of survival. Part of my training is ocean swimming,
and long distance swimming for me is as satisfying as diving, as it
requires showing up every day and participating - you can't fake it,
there is no dropping to 330 and bragging about it, there is no deep air,
there is nothing but you and the stark reality of your ability and
stamina or lack thereof - go the distance or get out of the water and
make up an excuse like the usdct does. Nobody who in unpreparred will
beat you, at any age, or at any previous experience level - it is all a
function of preparation. 

I pace out until I am sure, and then throw the hammer down - something
the fence-sitting bullshittters and deep air diving strokes will never
in their lives comprehend the satisfaction of, as they can not grasp
anything that takes years of discipline to be able to do , rather than
just drop off the boat to 400 feet, waddle to the waters edge and
scooter to the hinkle, or light up that joint and get the quick buzz.

This thinking, planning, preparing, and training goes into every last
little thing we do, and it is no accident that our team does the
explorations that have been called impossible by everyone else in cave
diving. It is also no accident that the strokes out there spend full
time downplaying that , as we make their braggadcio look like the drivel
that it is. Nobody wants to recognize that we keep breaking our own
records while exploring, and that three of these records were set in
publicly accessible caves where only Exley had been able to do anything,
and only by himself since the strokes could not help him.

 It is no accident that we make up no excuses, have never said "if we
only had this or that", and that we never talking about what we "will
do", "could do", "would do" or "plan to do" - we always say "DID". We
did do - over and over again.

 Nobody wants to recognize that the WKPP pioneered mixed gas cave diving
and sets the standards by which this activity is conducted today, that
all of the best gear in cave diving emanates from the WKPP, and that the
best training for this activity comes from the WKPP. Nobody wants to
look at the facts or the track record, as it totally discredits the lies
and training nightmare blind alley they have put themselves into.

What really amazes me about strokes like Zambeck is that they are
ubiquitous, and seem to have an inate abiltiy to seek each other's
company like breeding insects. For instance, Zambeck can not understand
a thing we do ( see his stupidity below about "joints" in scooters), but
has memorized the wakulla project book, a bible of stupidity, lies, deep
air clusters,  and how not to do things in detail with pictures ,
illustrations, and testimonials of the absolute worst case of mass
strokery ever assembled.

How do you deal with ignorance of this magnitude? I am amazed that it
continues, and I was talking to Brent the other day, and saying that I
would just once like to get a few of these strokes in the water just to
show them how bad they really are, but then the longer I do this the
more adamantly I adhere to Rule Number One, and the less I want to be
exposed to the nonsense that goes on out there.

 Diving is easy fun and safe, and then there are the Zmabvecks, or
whoever that stroke is.

Jim Cobb wrote:
> 
> Would somebody please bitch-slap this idiot?
> 
> On 1/1/98 9:54 AM Greg Zambeck wrote:
> 
> >George don't tell about the stress on the joints for a scooter.  I have
> >designed and built 2000 ft video housings and the control systems to go
> >along with.
> >
> >Earth to George there are nuclear subs that stay down for months at a time
> >and travel around the world.
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