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Roberto, it seems to me that there is a very fundamental
difference here -- these dives were *way* outside anything
that PADI teaches or endorses.  Contrast that with the deaths
occurring on dives that were actually part of TDI training.
They are not the same issues at all.

Dumb diving practices are dumb regardless of one's agency
affiliation.  But get it straight when you talk about the
degree to which agencies are involved in promoting what's
responsible for these completely unnecessary deaths.

PADI has flaws.  Unlike TDI, teaching deep air is not one 
of them.

- Todd


>  The last two death are PADI's not TDI,IANTD pr PSA, but from big mama PADI.
>  Is everyone afraid of talking about the PADI bullshitter? I am not.
>  Are you all afraid about loosing your PADI card or what?
>  There are, and there will be more PADI kids that think they are related to
>  God because they went trough their IDC-IE, and a lot of them will die with
>  deep diving. They do not want to learn, the typical answer is:
>  <I do not want to be a student for the rest of my life...>
>  Any "technical agency" mixed gas course is better then nothing.
>  
>  Roberto

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