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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:35:01 +0000
To: John Thornton <johnpt@jo*.de*.co*.uk*>
Cc: gmirvine@sa*.ne*, John Grogan <rockport@vo*.co*.uk*>,
     cavers , TechDiver List
From: Chris Hellas <chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*>
Subject: Re: Deep air kills two more
In message <7CteYdAIIui0Ewe0@jo*.de*.co*.uk*>, John Thornton
<johnpt@jo*.de*.co*.uk*> writes
>george
>i know Kevin well and his opinion of deep air is the same as yours, I do
>know that your approach is not always recieved in the way it is meant,
>people get more excited about how you speak rather than what you say,
>Kevins courses are good, I experienced Palmers and Kevins and Kev`s were
>by far the most complete and competent,

John
     Not sure what you are trying to say, but my interpretation is that
this is not a situation that warrants association or comparison.

> I will find out the truth of all
>this crap but I do think that whoever it was bottled out.

The bottling out occured after the BSAC ignored the letter - I was asked
my opinion and said that George should still come - there was no person
in that audience that would have created a problem over 'akward
questions' - there is no arguement against the philosophy - you know
that.

> I was told it
>was the members of the uk cave diving fraternity, I am sure that they
>read this list so come on guys what is your problem.Speak up.

I think the letter was the sum total of their bravery, however I am sure
we would all like a 'heads up' for a proper debate.

>This crap about the fire alarm is bullshit, if any of you spoke to the
>local security they would of told you that it is a regular thing at the
>conference hall and had nothing devious behind it,

You are right about the regular thing.It is conference centre policy to
evacuate as a last resort due to large numbers of people etc (the alarms
only sound in certain places & security make the decision to evacuate)
We were backstage when this occured & it was a few minutes before the
radio message asked for a full evacuation. The organisers felt that some
childish interference may occur and had briefed all staff - this coupled
to the fact that the actuation was not the normal 'run of the mill'
problem and was suspected to be a malicious act.


Regards

 
Chris Hellas         e-mail - chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*
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