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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 20:45:46 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Dean L Derk <twinds@ju*.co*>
CC: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, connie97@gt*.ne*,
     mg37842@ga*.sw*.se*
Subject: Re: Poseidon Odin regs.
Dean - I was at the BSAC conference, and the Poseiden guy there told me
it is the viton o-ring under the hp seat that is too hard, causing all
of the problems. I told him my pistons were mutillated when viewed under
a microscope, but he stuck to the viton story. I did not know my o-rings
were viton, as only a stroke would use viton orings, but he tells me the
newer regs ( the only ones I have problems with) have viton o-rings. 

 Keep in mind hat this is what he told me, but I am too lazy to go down
to my gear and look at them. I put old parts in the new regs ( but did
not change the o-ring), so we will see. Also, one of the WKPP guys is
manufacturing the o-rings and seats to our specs, so again , we will
have to see.

 Over the weekend I will look inside the regs again.

 For now, I am just throwing this out without any comment, as it sounds
like bull. I would like to believe it, and it certainly is possible, but 
then I would have to admit to being a stroke and having viton o-rings,
even though I did not know they were there, if indeed they are there. I
thought I knew what viton looked like, and I would have thought I would
have spotted a hard o-ring and changed it out of habit, since I have
bags and bags of poseiden rebuild kits, but then I masde the mistake of
thinking that the Scuba Pro orifice ring was too hard one time and
replaced them only to have it not work at all.

 Either way, we will find out the problem and make the necessary changes
to the parts - as per our usual . 
Dean L Derk wrote:
> 
> Once again I have tryed to talk to these people
> at Poseidon about these regs. They still wont budge.
> They still don't seem to realize that we care about the
> equipment we stake our lives on in persuite of your
> sport. There silence only serves to prove my point.
> May be I am looking at this the wrong way. Could there point of view
> be that (so what) we have lost a few, there are always new divers
> that want the best right out of the gate and we can build and sell
> units that don't work to people that do not know better. We are all the
> way over here in Sweidon and they cant touch us. We have this guy in
> New York that loves this stuff, because he gets to rebuild them every
> month at a 100 bucks a pop. This is great and we are on top of the world.
> We don't care about all these suckers.
> I have had some call me a whiner. Well any one with this problem knows
> better. It is OK I will take it until something is done. To all the
> dealers
> out that this may effect I am sorry. Help us to lay this matter to rest.
> OK there is or was a problem it can happen. Lets make it right.
> It is my understanding that some of you have tried to express your
> concerns to Poseidon and got bounced back. I may have sent out the
> wrong address and am sorry. So here it is again.
> 
> mg37842@ga*.sw*.se*
> Thommie Hjalmner       (President)
> 
> Let him know how you feel about it.
> I also have a request.
> A few months ago a man asked me if I would like
> to join a class action suite against Poseidon for these regs.
> At the time I was unable to talk to him about it, and later
> was unable to find him. I did at the time tell him that I thought
> Poseidon was going to take care of them for me. For give I was
> young and dumb at the time. This was at Ginnie springs Florida.
> If you are out there please contact me Via e mail. If there
> is any one else out there interested in this please feel free to
> contact me at this address. Also I may have a TV stations consumers
> help interested in running a story on this since it concerns life support
> equipment.
> Thanks for your time.
> Togeather we can do this.
> Dean
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