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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 07:25:31 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: John Dunk <screwloose@el*.co*>
CC: donn@le*.ne*.au*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Accelerated O2 ( Was Why we do not use 80/20
John, you are mixing strokeaphors here: the high ppo2 reference was to
the suggestion by one no-show bullshitter that you can jack up the ppo2
througout the deco and get out faster, if you get out at all ( using an
electronic rebreather with a high setpoint). The 80/20 think is somebody
else pointing out that part of the genesis of that particular stupidity
was so that strokes who can not control buoyancy could use a high ox mix
while flailing up and down in the water column with less tox risk. This
also satisfies the agency-induced fantasy that waves causes huge depth
changes for the strokes who go out in a gale to dive. Not so - do it all
the time. For other discussions of either subject, see the old
information. By the way , jacking the ppo2 deep is unnecessary and a
formula for tox later in the deco as well as pulmonary damage. The
relief gained by using a four or five gas deco with four steps is
necessary to make it through the whole deco with less damage and less
chance of tox. The alternative is to jack the ppo2, as on a CCR, and
then take long back gas or air breaks - too dicey, and unnecessary. This
was a fantasy created to help sell rebreather diving by people who do no
real diving. We do it, we tried it all, we have some samll idea what
works and what does not. We also can identify the true risks sicne we
actually do it betting our own lives, rather than the lives of some
desparate wannabe college students guineau pigs or other vargrants, and
until the BS'ers do it, their opinion is garbage.

 John, what do you do, read old newspapers ? 



John Dunk wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:50:04 +1000, you wrote:
> 
> > 4) In this same interest you will find that when you graduate to real
> >diving, as in caves,  you will not want to accellerate your ppo2 at
> >lower depths while still being faced with a long decompression at
> >shallower depths, and making bizarre mixes  to do this is a dangerous
> >mistake (just like the fantasy of holding an accellerated ppo2 on a
> >rebreather throughout a deco). I am anticipating the thinking that the
> >80/20  crowd would then go to an additional oxygen in cave without
> >accounting for total exposure, and subject themselves to the risk of tox
> >in the final deco steps. Tox you do not get out of - bends you do.
> 
> Would someone explain' the "fantasy" of holding an accelerated ppo2
> on a rebreather  throughout a deco ' and why it's a fantasy?Are we
> talking tox here or what?And how does  80/20 supposedly help divers
> with poor buoyancy control? Hope I didn't come inb too late on this
> one.  Also, someone mind listing the claimed benefits of 80/2?.
> Thanks
> 
>    John Dunk                                        o
>    Tallahassee,Fl                                    o
>    screwloose@el*.co*                      ____o_____
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