George get a spell check first, watch your sentence spacing it's off.

Saving lives George is a good on coming from you.
You preached so much about your 300 ft dives years ago, that three of your
friends died on deep air dives.  Ron wasn't watching what he was doing and
put the wrong #1 regulator on his deep Nitrox mix.  Steve Berman told me
all about it in Akumal last week.  You didn't put that in your report of
the accident.  Try reading the latest issue of Imersed Nitrox is less
forgiving than air.

For a guy that used to cut his tables to a 1/3 of what the Navy tables are,
back in 91.  I laughed when you started preaching that they were no good. 
Huggins five years ago was telling us that as many divers were getting bent
using  tables as computer's with Buhlmann algorithm's 

George "Helium is your friend", is this a male bonding thing you have
going.  Helium comes out of solution five times faster than nitrogen.  The
diver at whitefish Pte. Coming up from the Zilliah had a hit a 100 ft.  The
diver off the Andrea Doria was in so much pain that he wanted someone to
kill him.  Tell Mr. Bill that's a massive embolism from rapid
decompression.  Not a burst lung like the one at Lake Wazee.

Helium George is a gas with properties, tell diver the pros & con's of it's
use.  As a combustion Engineer I use the equipment for gas analysis on a
daily basis, just like have been for the last 15 years.  The discussion of
helium fails to look at the quality of the gas mixture that the diver is
producing, that's why I raised the question.

George your a prim example of McCarthyism on the Internet.  You only tell a
biased story the way you want it to sound.  As an "A - Type " personality
why don't you start assuming some responsibility, there are no victims on
300 ft air dives.  They make the dives because they choose to, stop using
Gilliam as your scape goat.

Wayzee 330 ft ice dive for 94 minutes of exposure vs. 300 ft WKPP dives
with 15 hours of exposure.  I would love to see Chris Parret's version 2.0
of Abyss to do a risk analysis on the above profiles.


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> From: G. Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> Cc: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>; 'Techdiver'
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Cavers Mailing List <cavers@ge*.co*>
> Subject: Re: Diving related question about Helium.
> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 8:28 PM
> 
> Greg, you are giving the farm animals a bad name.  Leave the blubbering
> goobery and abject stupidity to the those who have it down cold here in
> Florida. You are an amateur moron, we only want to hear really
> ridiculous stuff from the ones here - they are funny, you are scary.
> 
> Did I see some article where you were able to make the fabulous
> achievement of diving to 330 feet in a Lake in the winter? Was that you
> , Greg? Good work, that is a real milestone in diving, and a real
> accomplishment - depth is everything, Greg, and if a blithering idiot
> like you can do it with the most horrifyingly stroked out ridicule of
> tanked bozonity that you did it with, it is certainly no mean feat.
> 
>  Pretty work! You are a fine example of why this sport will get
> regulated - stupidity beyond the pale, and continuous efforts by asshole
> dive instructors, like you , who can not even conduct a simple class
> without killing somebody ( who was emulating you , moron)  to set the
> example for others to follow to their death.
> 
>   If you really have a real job, go back to it and save a few lives. Get
> out of our sport. What do you do with your mass spectrometer, count
> Froot Loops at the Kellogg's factory?
> 
> Greg Zambeck wrote:
> > 
> > Yes Jim I do, I use it in my line of work.
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> > > To:
> > > Cc: 'Techdiver' <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Cavers Mailing List
> > <cavers@ge*.co*>
> > > Subject: Re: Diving related question about Helium.
> > > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 5:18 PM
> > >
> > > As you all know, the only way to make sure that your Trimix is
breathable
> > 
> > > is to do an use a gas spectrometer. While the O2 content can be
analyzed
> > > via a sensor, the only way to assure that you don't have a toxic
level of
> > 
> > > helium is to have either an analysis system at home or to ship out a
> > > sample to a company.
> > >
> > > Personally, I use a VG Gas Analysis APEX system. My wife complains
that
> > > the lights dim everytime I fire that sucker up, but, hey I don't want
to
> > > helitox, no way baby!
> > >
> > > So, Greg do you use a spectrometer or a moleomatic molecule counter
to
> > > avoid helitox?
> > >
> > >   Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/18/97 3:44 PM Greg Zambeck wrote:
> > >
> > > >OK gentlemen: now how good is the Trimix breathing gas analysis of
the
> > gas
> > > >your breathing.
> > >
> > >
> > >  -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html
> > >
> > >


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