You wrote: >> >>If any of you had ever looked up from trying to >>see up your lab partners skirt during chemistry >>class, you might have learned that He is a noble >>gas and is monatomic except under extreme >>conditions (ie the surface of the sun, etc.). >>In fact its noble gas attributes, namely a filled >>outer octet of electrons is exaclty why it is so >>unreactive, does not covalently bond to itself >>or other atoms, and is so useful as an inert, >>non-narcotic substitute for nitrogen. [snip] >>-Devin >> > >Here we go reinventing chemistry again - an octet of electrons in a >atom with an atomic #2, atomic wt 4 & an outer shell composed of 2 read >2 electrons? Come on - read, think before propagating fallacious >stuff. > >Yes it is a full shell, therefore it is inert - not noble. Noble >elements (metals) are Pt, Au, etc that are relatively inert. They do >not have full outer shells. > >Look up a chem book before writing nonsense. > > > > > >P.S. >You are completely and absolutely wrong. They are in fact >"noble" gases. >The designation "noble metals" refers to the chemical >similarities of these >metals, under some conditions, to the noble gases. Did you steal >a ninth >grade shemistry book and find the first page with "He" and base >your sound >reasoning on such an in depth analysis??? >see other posts about octets, silly Brief chemistry lesson folows: He is an inert gas. In the past the inert gases were referred to as 'noble gases' or 'rare gases', however those two terms have fallen into disfavor (the former because it is totally non descriptive, the latter because they are not rare - He is the 2nd most abundant element in the universe, after H2). He is an alpha particle with 2 electrons. That is the alpha particles emitted during radioactive decay are helium nuclei, 2 protons & two neutrons. Atomic weight 4. (skipping the decimals) Like any atom with full valence orbitals, the electrons are very difficult to remove (ionize). In addition, its small atomic size means that the electrons are held very tightly (r=9.3*10^^-11 m), yielding 1st & 2nd ionization potentials of 24.6 v & 54.1 v, respectively. Compared that to the 1st ionization potential of Li, 3rd on the Perodic Table, of 5.4 v. A note on valence orbitals - they are not octets. Octet in chemistry is a specific term referring to a group of eight electrons. In general they are an extremely stable group of electrons, meaning that they are harder to remove from the orbital than that calcluated from the radii/nucleus attraction values. All inert gases have 8 electrons in their outer shell except He, which has 2. Therefore it does not have an octet. With one electron in their valence shells, Ag [2 8 18 18 1], Pt [2 8 18 32 17 1], Au [2 8 18 32 18 1] (the 'noble metals', which are not inert, but difficult to react) are hardly like the inert gases. Incidentally N2 is notoriously difficult to react to make into nitrous, nitric, etc. compounds. But it is not inert like He & the other 'true' inert gases I hope I have simplified this chemistry enough that the authors, who were propagating fallacious information but who responded to the corrections with infantile remarks like 'silly', will be capable of comprehending. Esat Atikkan -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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