Christo, I've been on this list for some time. At first I though George was just blowing smoke. Yeah, maybe he could be a little more polite at times but I think George is looking at the big picture here, PEOPLE ARE DYING!! I've read most of George's and others posts about many things. Although there may not be all that many well known writings on the exact details of high PPN2 problems it is generally known that problems do exist! George is "attacking" Gilliam because he (TDI) seems to be the biggest proponent of Deep Air. Although I may not agree with George all the time I do listen to what he says, lots of experience in his words. George isn't in it to make money, certainly not from diving. I've never met him and have only conversed directly through email a few times. Since Gilliam is the president of TDI he IS accountable for the actions of all TDI instructors. There are some good ones out there which break from the ranks. I have asked my instructor who is also TDI if I would need "extended range" to get tri-mix certified. He looked at me and said, "do you want to take deep air?" I said no! He said "good, then you did remember something from your adv. NITROX course." I won't mention his name because he's a good guy and I wouldn't want to get him in trouble. I think George is just worried about more deaths in the future because of this type of stuff. I think you have a few courses of action. One is put George in a kill file. If you think what George is saying is wrong (factually) then challenge him on it! You don't have to do it publicly on the list, email him direct. You can always unsubscribe to the list (I don't think you need to do this). You can take what George says with a grain of salt the sift through and find the facts and read them. I never believe something anyone says the first time around. I did do a little reading on the subject and asked some people I know about RBC rigidity and the effects. They told me that it was a bad thing physiologically. Getting narked is also a dumb thing, through it was cool years ago when I was starting out in diving. Anyway, that's my $.02. Hope this helps, Safe diving, Art. art.paltz@r2*.co* Last Dive 10/31/97, Ora Verde, Grand Cayman, 50ft/50 min bottom time, 88 degrees F, 21% bottom mix -- O.K. so I was on my honeymoon and had a weenie DM following me. Had 1800 PSI left in my 72 cube tank!! -- Couldn't wait to get back to the cold waters of the North East!! -----Original Message----- From: christo Sent: Thursday, November 13, 1997 12:15 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Attacking TDI Mr G Irivine I am not one of the so called specialists and "wundermen" like yourself. I have never met Brett Gillam and might never do. This man must be remarkable to control so many divers that was supposedly good divers. Every time someone dies, Brett Gilliam is personally responsible. As a NAUI Instructor, I also teach beginner scuba courses. One of the things we teach our students are that they make the final decision if they want to dive or not. Are they happy with the conditions, are they capable of the situation or not. It is THEIR decision. No instructor can or will force someone to dive. Now I don't know if Brett Gilliam has got such magical powers to take over all the TDI Instructors / Divers minds, but actually it sounds a bit far fetch. It looks much more if you have a personal vendetta against the man. It is not that you disagree with him and TDI, its blatently attacking the man personally. Can I please request you to try and be civilized in your approach to any other people on this group. You don't have to agree with anyone. But you can disagree in a civilized way. It is sad enough if a diver of fame (or any diver) dies. Don't make it even worse with your attitude. This is a direct request, not an attack. Regards Christiaan Grosskopf South Africa -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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