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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 19:25:32 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Jon Guizar <jeg154@ps*.ed*>
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, cavers <cavers@ge*.co*>
Subject: Re: Math Under Pressure
Interestingly enough, I was having trouble converting meters to feet
trying to find an exact depth that we wanted to fish in, and it was
making me nuts. Bill had the same problem. The really funny thing is
that the reason we even noticed this was that we were using meter guages
that Gilliam sent to us because we needed guages that would read past
325, as I suspected that we were maxing the guages out on a couple of
cave surveys. I knew the nunmber of meters I wanted when I left the
surface, but could not get it straight at 100 feet, and then could not
adjust when we found our lobsters in a different depth, or so we
thought. The boat said we stayed at the seme depth the whole time.

Jon Guizar wrote:
> 
> George - I did a similar experiment.  When I was still doing the stupid air
thing and beginning to suspect the breathing medium as the culprit, I took
three random math problems to 180' on air (SIC).
> 
> 
> 
> That was many dives ago but I saved the slate just to remind myself of the
stupidity I was involved in and the unbelievable risk I had been exposing
myself to.   I switch to trimix, honed the procedures, cleaned up the gear, and
the problems were GONE!   I am so paranoid about air and depth now that I get
an uneasy feeling about the thought of 100+.  Everything I do below that depth
is Mix.  Not sure what you guys are using as a limit but I have noticed quite a
difference in my performance hear
> 
> I think more people should try to take a good look at their "performance" on
deep air.   Even when things are very relaxed and somewhat controlled it is not
good.  Throw in a "real" problem or two and someone is going to be calling the
sheriff's department for a recovery.
> 
> To all those diving "deep air", you owe it to yourself to prove this and
change your ways.   If you don't, well, it's just a matter of time, look at the
deep-air death list and then come on here and explain to us all what you know
about deep air that makes you better than all those that have perished.
> 
> Don't forget to carry the ones,
> 
> Jon Guizar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   G. Irvine [SMTP:gmirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent:   Sunday, November 02, 1997 5:43 AM
> To:     techdiver; cavers
> Subject:        Math Under Pressure
> 
> Bill Mee and I were trying to do math at 100 feet on nitrox 35, and
> could not. Today we are going to try the same thing with 20% helium and
> 35% oxygen and see what happens.
> 
>   I will be glad to match  my college board math score to any sum total
> of three deep air instructors out there ( I think you get a minimum of
> 200 points for just signing you name, so four would be the maximum score
> allowed, otherwise it may be a safe bet to say "four", given that some
> of these mutants can not sign their name), and any five from Central
> Florida,  and Bill Mee is a max out on any scale, so my guess is that if
> we can not do it, the morons who recommend deep air can not either.
> 
>   When I hear a FAS dive instructor tell me he is "good on air", I want
> to know why he is not good at one ATA on air, and how it can get any
> better deeper?
> 
>   I want to know why dive instructors are pretending that there is some
> reason to "teach" this stupidity, when PADI takes people to 130 just to
> show them the proplem. I want to know why I can do dives that none of
> the big time instructors can do, yet I do not dive air. Why is that?
> What do they know that I do not?
> 
>   How did you deep air dopes do on the math college board? Want to have
> a contest with me, and let me prove you wrong? Bring out you best guy,
> let's go to 100 feet, and let's see what happens.
> 
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