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>To: Fred Garth, Curt Bowen >From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*> >Subject: Latest issue > >Mr. Garth, Bowen, > >I just wanted to convey my frustrations to you reguarding your publication DeepTech and especially it's most recent issue. I cancelled my subscription yesterday and actually wish I had done so before I recieved this last one. > >I used to have respect for your magazines, Mr. Gilliam and Mr. Irvine. Due to recent events I have completely lost that respect for Mr. Gilliam and anyone associated with his latest actions. As a person who follows the discussions on the mail lists I have read almost every one of the posts mentioned within the article "Fear & Loathing on the Internet" and I have to say that this article was completely out of context. The messages were edited & altered so as to create a larger than life issue so Mr. Gilliam could punish Mr. Irvine for speaking out aginst a dangerous practice that TDI makes so much money off of. Mr. Irvine can go a little over the top at times (as Gilliam has also been known to do) but his messages are intended to promote safety and knowledge. > >I also find it interesting that when Mr. Irvine was speaking out aginst one of Gilliam's rivals you were quick to promote his antics, why the blatent flip-flop?? We all know why - he threatens TDI's profits. > >My opinion is not alone. I have spoken with several others who know little of the internet or the WKPP yet they were appaled by this dribble and also plan on cancelling their subscriptions. How many have you lost this week anyway? I do not personally know either of these gentlemen other than a few conversations I have had with on the telephone at various times with each of them reguarding other issues unrelated to this. Until recently I was completely neutral, but now I have to stand up for what is right. > >If you ever choose to loose the bad influences and start to publish real articles that we could actually learn something from I may consider buying your products again. > >I have also attached below a recent message I posted to several mailing lists further outlining detailed frustrations I have had with DeepTech (I suggest you read it, my opinion is very similar to many other readers.) >Reguards, >Jeremy Downs >DCR Companies >O (916) 333-0560 >F (916) 333-0662 > >>I actually discontinued my subscription as have many other people who actually know the full story. Now lets see if we actually get our money back (I know - don't count on it!). My problems included one issue never being sent and we all know when the last issue was actually delivered. On top of the unprofessional administration the articles for the most part belong in some gossop rag and not in a technical diving magazine. Being as the owners of this magazine have alot to gain from selling classes you will never see truly technical information within it's publically accessable pages, just continued product advertising under false pretenses. >> >>Just look at the content so far this year: >> >>-Each issue has several articles pushing their rebreather that in any other mag would be under the heading of "paid advertising" with no articles about any other system even though four other manufacturers actually started shipping this year - including real news about how some of these systems have actually been used for some truly technical exploration. >> >>-An article about cave diving that details and promotes genuinely dangerous techniques (thet even put a small disclaimer at the end to cover their butts legally). (I especially liked the photos of cave divers in OW gear including snorkles) >> >>-Various other articles that once again could only be described as blatent advertising for their agency. >> >>-Dare I even mention the dribble in the latest issue. That insulted the intelligence of anybody who knows the real story (and even many who don't). >>I have talked to several people lately who know almost nothing of the WKPP or its outspoken leader who were offended that thay were being charged for this garbage. I personally don't feel like paying $7.50 for basically one man's tribute to a lost friend and a bunch of biased personal attacks against a very successful dive group in Florida because they spoke out against a dangerous practice that the publisher of this rag is making alot of money from, thats really all there was in that issue. (George can go a little over the top sometimes but his messages are right on the money - alot of people have learned quality info from him that improves safety and reduces diving expenses) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 12:01 PM 10/29/97 -0800, Jeremy Downs wrote: >>>Isn't everybody? >>> >>>At 11:45 PM 10/28/97 -0500, john.r.strohm@BI*.co* wrote: >>>>Well, the much-delayed "Third Quarter 97" issue arrived today. >>>> >>>>I am pretty disappointed. >>>>-- >>>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>-- >>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>> >>> >> -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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