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> Hey, Curt-
> 
>   Back in July I wrote this message:
> 
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> In a previous post I did say that after wading through the Uwatech and  
> TDI propaganda and infomercial you might find an article or two with some 
>  real information. I was rather disappointed at the Nitrox article,  
> however. While it was balanced for the most part, I think that it did not 
>  cover the PP02 exposure issues. But then this might hurt the TDI nitrox  
> class attendance, would'nt it?
> 
> As far as I am concerned, since the magazine changed hands, it has gone  
> to the shitter, fast. I think that the last articles worth a damn were  
> those penned by George Irvine. No bullshit fluff articles in those days.
> 
> But, as any reader of Gilliam's would attest, he is the champion pro of  
> deep air and I wager that plenty of TDI's income can be traced to the  
> dozen or so deep air/technical nitrox classes offered up by Gilliam and  
> other agencies. And for some reason he takes issue with George Irvines  
> stance against deep air/nitrox.
> 
> The part which disturbs me is that rather than debate George in the court 
>  of public opinion, he has decided to use his connections in the industry 
>  to discredit George and the Woodville Karst Plain Project. He has sent  
> letters to the State and to WKPP sponsors in a sleazy, underhanded  
> attempt to screw over George. Now he wants to use the power of his  
> position at DeepTech to write articles defaming George and WKPP. This is  
> some real pussy behavior.
> 
> This situation makes me seriously doubt the usefulness of DeepTech as a  
> resource to technical divers. What we as divers want is non-biased,  
> accurate, and intriguing writing and photographs, not a bunch of  
> marketing, political, ego-stroking bullshit dribble which characterizes  
> several of DeepTechs latest articles. Deeptech, Uwatec and TDI have  
> entered into an unholy alliance which will NOT benefit it's suscribers  
> and if you ask me, you guys ought to save your money and wait for a real  
> tech magazine to make an appearance.
> 
>    Jim
> ------------------------
> 
> It appears that I was right on the mark even beyond my wildest dreams.
> 
> Your reply to my letter was:
> 
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> Thank God you have an opinion, get off your ass and start a magazine 
> yourself if you dont like the content.  Maybe you have thousands of hours 
> a couple hundred thousand dollars and can do without a paycheck for the 
> next 3 years, just as I have the last 3.  If you can't do this, use the 
> talents in diving and writing you seem to have and enlighten us with your 
> knowledge on the subject. Maybe we can learn something from you other 
> than being negative.
> 
> As for George, He is an ass and he knows it, he likes it that way, No 
> other magazine besides DeepTech has given the WKPP more press than I have 
> PERIOD.
>  George did step on his dick when he slammed Rob Palmer before he knew 
> all the details, thats what not just Bret but the family of Rob Palmer is 
> bitching about.  I know and like George, I call and talk to him all the 
> time, he has many good ideas and talents along with some great team 
> members. 
> 
> As for TDI and UWATEC having space in the magazine, THEY PAY MY BILLS and 
> will continue to have the space they pay for. If you dont like it, 
> CANCELL your subscription, I dont need your money or your negative 
> opinions. As at mater at fact I'll refund your money If I never have to 
> hear from you again as long as I live.
> 
> Curt Bowen
> Founder and Co- publisher of DeepTech
> --------------------------
> 
> To this I replied "Fine, cancel my subscription" and gave you my address 
> for the refund of my money. So far I have neither received my refund, nor 
> have I received any more issues.
> 
> And to be frank, after seeing those articles by Gilliam, asshole Brown 
> and that other dumb broad, I see that deeptech has gone completely off 
> the deep end. Any pretence of an editorial standards have gone right out 
> the window. 
> 
> Do you think that I (or anyone else) want to pay for this shit? I've read 
> quite a few magazines in my life and I have never, ever seen a magazine 
> used in this fashion. Unbelievable.
> 
> You know that I've been on these lists for a long time and have seen 
> everyone of these posts. Could you at least have put a token one or two 
> in context? Would that have been too much to ask? And you also know that 
> everyone of those assholes George nailed deserved at least that, and 
> probably worse.
> 
> You realize that DeepTech is going to go out of business printing garbage 
> like this? No one will pay for it. Why don't you just rename the mag 
> TDI/Uwatech World and give it away free. You know, like those piles of 
> freebee handouts by the diveshop front door? It's your only hope.
> 
> Now, WHERES MY MONEY.
> 
> 
> 


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