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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:52:01 -0700 (PDT)
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, "Karen Flynn" <kflynn1@er*.co*>,
From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Tech Diver or Tech Keyboard Operator
Jim-
Your web page threatens their cash cow (lots of profitable classes to get to
the "mystic" and deadly trimix.....OOOOOOHH). This is the exact reason why
you should publish it, I'm sure others would be willing to help you out also.
Jeremy


At 09:16 AM 10/16/97 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote:
>Karen-
>
>This excitment over me setting up a trimix page is truly unbelievable. So 
>far my home and family has been threatened, the phone is ringing all 
>night (I finally have to disconnect it so my wife and 1yr old can get 
>some sleep). Now people are trying to get me fired from my job. All over 
>a web page with trimix.
>
>I have a feeling I've stumbled onto something which is a little bigger 
>that I had anticipated. You say that you have to dive a couple of hundred 
>feet to "really" use trimix. The point, Karen, is that Helium had 
>benefits at shallower depths. The more research into the subject, the 
>more this fact is held out. Time and time again, the limiting factor is 
>that "helium is expensive and hard to get", not "you aint diving deep 
>enough to use it".
>
>Why are you, Bott and the other in such a rampage over this? What is your 
>ulterior motive? Why do the facts disprove what you say here?
>
>I've really taken a beating on this subject, first on this forum and now 
>my whole family is under attack.
>
>But you know what? I am more determined than ever to make this web page, 
>go ahead, ruin me, I will take my last dime and publish this page just to 
>annoy you and the other degenerates who are trying to ruin my life.
>
>Karen, you and the others are going to have to lynch me or kill me. I 
>have not doubt that you loonies will go that far.
>
>   Jim
>
>On 10/16/97 2:16 AM Karen Flynn wrote:
>
>>I have to admit that I've been watching the "Cobber's trimix" thread for 
>>the past couple 
>>of days before posting.  It just got the better of me tonight and I had to 
>>say 
>>something.
>>
>>First, Cobb admits to diving the "Eureka" off the NC/VA state border with 
>>**mix** to 
>>determine the difference between a "deep air" buzz and trimix.  Swears he 
>>saw some 
>>difference.  Come on now JIM...the Eureka's 116 fsw (35m) deep with an 
>>occasional wash 
>>out to a max 118 fsw (35.9m).  NOBODY'S definition of deep air, or **deep 
>>anything** is 
>>in that range.  Using Tx on a 116 fsw (35m) dive with a low **home 
>>brewed** FN2 put you 
>>at an EAD of what....35 fsw (10.6m)???  How many of us out there notice 
>>the "buzz" 
>>difference between 35 fsw and 116 fsw??  Really now!!
>>
>>The average REAL mid-Atlantic Tx wreck dives (Monitor, E.M. Clark, St. 
>>Augustine,etc) 
>>are lying in the 240 to 260 fsw (+/-75m) range and you should be on your 
>>6th+ **deco 
>>stop** before you hit 35 fsw.  Matter of fact, you're first deco stop on 
>>those dives 
>>would be below your max depth on the "Eureka".  So maybe you got the 
>>"pre-requisite" 
>>number of gas switches in to make it a technical dive - but on the 
>>Eureka...who's 
>>fooling who??  Who cares??
>>
>>I guess I'm an idealistic gal and believe it takes more than equipment 
>>buying savvy, an 
>>understanding of tech diving lingo, and a keyboard to make you a techncal 
>>diver.  Seems 
>>to me you should be doing the dives.  Experience does matter.
>>
>>Karen Flynn
>>
>>PS: IANTD TX certified #560 ('95) and "grandfathered" out of the deep air 
>>pre-requisite 
>>by Billy Deans due to level of ACTUAL Tx experience prior to the IANTD 
>>course.  Now go 
>>ahead - flame away...
>>
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