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To: broyall@us*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: armantrout@wo*.at*.ne* (Jesse Armantrout)
Subject: Re: Irvine & Internet
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:40:42 +0000
gotta be a fake.  Nobody is this far out there.
Trout

At 04:51 PM 10/16/97 +0000, broyall@us*.ne* wrote:
>It is sad.
>
>I guess that if teh crap that George Irvine and Company perpetrates on
>the Internet were not so venal and loathsome, it would be downright
>comical in its ineptitude.  His latest posting, once again cowardly sent
>as an anomymous message, says that Bret Gilliam was fired from his
>position as CEO of UWATEC.  Of course, his transparent duplicity is
>obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.  None the less,
>Gilliam still rules at UWATEC much to Irvine's obvious torment.
>
>What's so funny is that Irvine makes the preposterous announcements only
>to have them immediately proven false to even the most casual observer.
>What kind of mutated world does he live in?  Why would anyone set
>himself up as such a fool?  You have to ask yourself when this moron has
>time to do anything except pound his keyboard (and obviously his pud
>considering his favorite expression is "stroke") posting various
>Internet garbage that everyone knows is completely made up. 
>
>But his repetitious pattern of obvious lies and misinformation should be
>a case study for paranoid dysfunction.  There is really no secret at the
>source of his animus to Gilliam.  Ever since that scathing article he
>wrote in Deep Tech (Bravo!) exposed Irvine to be the scum that he really
>is, Gilliam has replaced Bill Stone, Jim King, Tom Mount, etc, as
>Irvine's target.  The list is endless.
>
>What's amusing to me is that Irvine really thinks that anyone takes him
>seriously or that anyone doesn't see through the absurd charade of his
>mis-attributed postings when he's too chicken to sign his own name.  And
>the idea that millionaires like King and Gilliam might be affected by
>Irvine's rants only sadly reflected his continued distorted view of
>reality in an industry that has no time for him or his nutcase
>disciples.
>
>By the way, in spite of Irvine's protestations to the contrary, a source
>at Scubapro has confirmed that ALL ties to Irvine and the WKPP have been
>withdrawn.  Apparently the guys at the top of that company were stunned
>to learn of Irvine's antics and quietly sent the word down the ladder to
>cut off any association between Scubapro and Irvine.  An examination of
>Scubapro's website will show that the WKPP has been completely removed
>and one of their sales reps confirmed that absolutely no further
>sponsorship will be made.  So my guess is that we can now look forward
>to Irvine slamming Scubapro.
>
>Meanwhile, real professionals like Jim Bowden and Ann Kristovich
>continue to be fully sponsored by Scubapro and UWATEC.  Is there a
>lesson to be learned here?
>
>Bill Royall
>

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