Why not, aquafart? You dispense information about which you know =
nothing all the time, so I was following your lead.

By the way, did you get me thrown off my ISP yet? I was pretty mad at =
myself for offending you, but I decided to give myself a slap on the =
wrist.

You know it is very interesting how a certain segment of the dive =
industry (i.e. instroketors) are really upset about this trimix =
thing. Doing some research on the topic, it is amazingly, =
unbelievably easy to do. But all of the tech traning agencies have =
turned it into Holy Grail of diving, where the student has to spend =
hundreds or even thousands of dollars for something which should be =
covered in an afternoon nitrox class.

Just to make this clear, Bill Bott first sent a message full of LIES =
to try to get me kicked off an ISP. My crime? "fowl language". Now =
Mr. Bott is trying to get me fired from where I work. The crime? =
"fowl language".

All you people out there, I think you should know that Bill Bott will =
do this to you, should you have a disagreement with him. Isn't he a =
swell guy?

    Jim Cobb

On 10/16/97 1:12 AM Bill Bott wrote:

>All,
>
>It's not bad enough that we have to wade through all the trash talk.  Now
>we find out that Cobb is a keyboard diver dispensing advice about Tri-Mix,
>before he did his first mixed gas dive.  When he got called on it he had =
no
>real defense so he opens the sewer and dumped it on the list.  GET A
>CLUE!!!!  Cobb does NOT know what he is saying he is just repeating =
someone
>else!!!
>
>If that isn=EDt bad enough, NOW we get George defending him.  That is
>pitiful!!!  George=EDs message on deep air can stand on it=EDs own merit. =
 The
>deep air is dumb message is so obvious that it should NOT need this much
>time or bandwidth.  But why defend some know nothing, dive nothing,
>parrot???  Again he does a GREAT disservice to himself by associating with
>Cobb.
>
>George,
>
>You have achieved some tremendous mile stone in diving.  But when you die
>you will be remembered as much or more for WHO YOU ARE as what you did.  =
If
>you don=EDt care, you will be remembered for that as well.  And if you =
don=EDt
>mind being remembered as an apologist for a few puppets who could only
>parrot you, that=EDs okay too.  But you may wish to think about it now.
>Because you are not 25 any more.  The past few months have done a lot to
>help your image.  So why turn back now?  That doesn=EDt mean you =
shouldn=EDt
>call a pot smoker a pot smoker.  But rather consider if that information =
is
>helping to get the message across or turning people away.
>
>You believe in  the team concept.  However the team can be no better than
>the worst member.  And you just jumped in bed with a no one who hasn=EDt =
done
>any thing of note other than spew trash, and fraudulently misrepresent
>himself.  Is that the type of spokesman you want?  If so that=EDs fine =
too.
>But do you think it will help or hinder your cause?  Think about it =
George,
>An honest message from a reliable source or a message that will always be
>suspect because the messenger is a fraud?
>
>As for the FRAUD Cobb, 
>
>I personally have no use for a "diver" who does most of his bottom time on
>a keyboard..  Yes this is personal between me and Cobb.  And yes you have =
a
>right to be mad at him for wasting you time with this on a public list.
>This too has no place in this bandwidth.  Other than to say that I did not
>post my complaint to the list, Cobb did.  It is up to you to decide if it
>was to inform you of some new technical development in diving or to take
>the heat off him for being a fraud.
>
>I have to admit that I find a certain irony in the fact the I was
>complaining to the cause of the complaint.  I also thank those who tried =
to
>offer assistance in finding the host IP.  But you all fell a steep or two
>short of the mark.  I do know a little tiny bit about computers and the
>Internet though.  What I find interesting is that his hosts seem to be =
well
>meaning non-profit allograft Tissue Banking System. Questions or comments
>about donation should be directed to: Public Education Coordinator, Becky
>Lawson, at becky_lawson@tr*.or* (I think it is a good cause).
>
>As far as the use of the host is concerned I wonder what Bill Anderson,
>President & CEO or John St. John, VP for Corporate Services will have to
>say about this usage and Mr. Cobb=EDs jeopardizing of there client status
>with UU.NET.  However, I do intend to find out.  I know what UU.NET had to
>say and lets just say that Mr. Cobb may not be laughing as hard now as he
>was yesterday.  Perhaps Mr. Cobb will keep us up to date on UU.NET=EDs and
>LifeNet=EDs actions.  
>
>I hope Mr. Cobb does not work for any of these people or companies as he
>could be in big trouble if he does.  If you have any thoughts on Mr. =
Cobb=EDs
>employment status you might wish to forward them to Mr. Cobb at
><jcobb@tr*.or*>  or Mr. John St. John at <john_stjohn@tr*.or*>.  I=EDm
>sure they would like to hear your comments.
>
>All I can say is look at the relationships and accomplishments for sure,
>But also consider the quality of the message.  You don=EDt need to shoot =
the
>messenger nor do you need to accept the message from a fraud.  Consider =
the
>source then make a sound reasonable choice based on the facts and merits =
of
>the information presented.  I'm sure that if you do you will come to two
>key choices:
>
>1)   Deep Air is DUMB!!!
>2)   Hogarthian is the best way to rig!!!
>
>
>Bill (aquadart) Bott
>

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