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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 08:16:33 -0400
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: mrlungs@ak*.ne*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ge*.co*
Subject: Re: add these to the deep air dead list, and send to the Slob
Jeff, the FBI is always arresting pedophiles , child molesters, and
other sexual deviants who seek their victims through chat rooms - these
criminals are no differnet than the dive intructors who are doing the
same thing.

 Sooner or later eveyone either finds out the truth or stumbles along
until they die. I am amazed at how the FAS instructors hide the truth
and hide the WKPP. That has been going on since I got into it. i really
had to ask around to find out that Bill Gavin even existed, and then I
went to him and here we are. The goobers had him on the "don't even
mention his name list", as he made them look as bad then as we do now,
and the WKPP made the deep air bozos look as bad then as we make them
look now. 

 My instructor told me that "only a stroke like Jim Lookwood or Bret
Gillaim would dive deep on air" That was years ago, and still true.


mrlungs@ak*.ne* wrote:
> 
> At 06:54 PM 10/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >OSTDIVE, and everyone else, could you all please forward us ( me and
> >Kenny ) the names of any deep air dead you know of. We can not stop
> >idiots like Gillaim form bragging about it in his deepair magazine ( as
> >well as Aquacorp and other mags), or dumb red necks from doing it, but
> >we sure can stop anyone with a brain from listening to them, being peer
> >pressured by them, or being otherwise led astray.
> 
> George, you need to read the end of this post, this made my hair stand up
> on end.
> 
> >
> >most people who are on these lists, other than the FAS crowd, are smart
> >enough to look at the real information if we can present it. Sicne there
> >is so much effort spent supressing it, we need to offset that with the
> >truth.
> >
> 
> The Names have been changed to protect the less informed, and this is a log
> of a dive chat room on Efnet and name of the room is #Divers
> 
> This am while looking around for something to do after getting off a 12 our
> shift at the hospital this am, I came accross this Chat room.  After some
> small talk, this guy <??> piped up and we stated chatting about diving in
> general..  Well come to find out he is getting cert'ed from TDI.  Just real
> alittle and see if your jaw dosn't hit the floor and your eyes bug out over
> what this guy is being taught and what is being said.
> 
> <DAwgiee> i gess that you do deep air also??
> <??> not as much as I like
> <DAwgiee> now I know that you are nuts!!!
> <??> there are some cool wrecks that are beyond rec-limits
> 
> He has got to be kidding, I wonder if this is what TDI is all about??
> 
> <??> how else you going to get to them.
> <DAwgiee> tri-mix
> 
> Do they not teach about other types of gases through TDI?
> 
> <??> I'm doing deep-air through TDI...can't go on to tri-mix till I get
> deep-air cert
> 
> Get out the check book, those guys at TDI are on their way to the ISlands!!
> 
> <DAwgiee> dude, you need a lesson about deep-air diving....
> <DAwgiee> ever heard of WKPP??
> <??> please, enlighten me.
> <DAwgiee> Sign Up to Techdiver mailing list and see what they have to say
> about deep-air diving
> <??> hooah
> 
> Hmmm wonder why they do not tell ppl about the techdiver list?? Could it be
> because of the big bad George?? :)
> 
> <??> I plan on taking a cave cert class in November
> <??> when I go to zFlorida
> <??> where's gennie springs???
> <DAwgiee> just out side of gainsville
> <DAwgiee> like center of florida
> <??> that's it
> <??> don't have anything solidly booked yet...
> <DAwgiee> and ask them who would be a good instruter for caving, and
> someone that is not going to blow smoke up your pants
> <DAwgiee> you will get honest answers
> 
> George, or anyone else, point this guy in the right direction!! Hopefully
> he has subscribed to techdiver now and is getting alittle information from
> the post of 10/3/97.  Be easy on him, he is living over sea's, and in the
> area that he is in, that might be all that they have avaible to them..
> 
> Just thought that you all would like to see what was out there.
> 
> Carry On!!
> 
> jeff
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