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From: "dmooney" <dmooney@cy*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Steve Lindblom" <s_lindblom@co*.co*>
Subject: Re: Diving after glaucoma
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 18:24:56 -0500
Well Steve,

We appear to be at extreme ends of luck of the draw when it comes to which
DAN rep pulls your email question. I have a friend with epilepsy who wanted
to follow me into diving. I didn't think that would be too cool an idea
until we knew a bit more about the risks involved. I posted a request for
an objective breakdown of the hazards, conditions under which diving with
such a condition might NOT be contra-indicated, and within 24 hours I had a
lengthy (yet concise) explanation of everything I (and my friend) needed to
know, written as near to laymen's terms as possible given the subject
matter. 

Based upon what we learned in the exchange, my friend doesn't dive. Or, if
he does, it's not with me, cuz he passed none of the checkpoints DAN
recommends to allow diving with a history of grand mal siezure. 

And of course they tell you to see your doctor. Only a physician who's
familiar with your particular flavor of a disorder SHOULD be qualified to
make a recommendation in your case. IMO this caveat doesn't make DAN's
recommendations any less authoritative - just less specific to your unique
situation.

And on the subject of sudafed, I've used it, and still do on occassion -
but it's been indicated as an aggravating factor in cases of O2 toxicity
and I consider it a use at your own risk type thing. So do you think DAN
was wrong to advise not diving? It's NAVY stamp of approval may be all well
and good - but isn't it possible the NAVY also imposes some limitations on
it's use? Like at or below a certain operating PO2? I don't know the answer
to that question, and I suspect you don't either, nor do the large majority
of folks who see the "NAVY approved" label attached to it by the dive
community and think it's safe in all cases.

As I see it, when an authority provides a set of guidelines - pros and cons
of an issue, the reader is going to focus on what he/she wants to hear/read
that will allow him/her to do what they want to do. If confronted by doubt,
or a question from a concerned friend (dive buddy?) they can say "well, DAN
said it's okay to do this" and ignore the other set of facts and conditions
under which it's NOT okay.

DAN said it'd be okay for my epilectic pal to dive. IF he'd gone several
years siezure free without medication and a bunch of other IF's. The
wanta-diver with money tied up in a trip or invested in a garage full of
dive gear is gonna focus on what comes before, not after, the IF. Therein
lays DAN's or any other authorities worst nightmare. So of course they
cover their ass with "see your doctor" and "don't dive" - I for one cannot
think of a single situation in which following either of those advises
would be wrong.

<stumbling off my soapbox>

Drew

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> From: Steve Lindblom <s_lindblom@co*.co*>
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: Diving after glaucoma
> Date: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 10:12 AM
> 
> >Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:58:41 -0500
> >To:"dmooney" <dmooney@cy*.ne*>
> >From:s_lindblom@co*.co* (Steve Lindblom)
> >Subject:Re: Diving after glaucoma
> >
> >>Address dive mediciney type questions to DAN via the email link on
their
> >>web page if you want authoritative answers to questions like this.
> >
> >
> >I've never had a bit of luck getting medical info from DAN about
prexisting
> >conditions - they are too weasily-cautious to share what they know, and
always
> >end up telling you to "consult your physician" as if there's any
physician
> >within a 100 miles of most of us who know a damn thing about hyperbaric
> >medicine etc.
> >A friend once called them to ask if they had any information on what
> >decongestants were most suitable for diving, since he had the tail end
of a
> >cold and had an expensive, non-refundable, dive trip coming up. They
told him
> >to stay out of the water. He asked on the net and got some navy info on
the
> >subject, used sudafed, and had no problems. He could understand why DAN
might
> >not tell him to use sudafed, but not why they couldn't at least refer
him to
> >the necessary information so he could make up his own mind instead of
giving
> >him the most useless, cautious, advice possible?
> >
> >
> 
> 
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