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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:22:56 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*>
To: Wrolf.Courtney@do*.co*
Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: Re: Red Cell Rigidity on deep air diving wasRe: (no subject)

Hi Wrolf,

The deepest of the 5 or 6 OC scuba dives I have done in the last 3 years 
was to 100 feet for a bottom time of 10 minutes. I did deep stops, never 
got within 40 feet of my ceiling (ala EDGE), and spent nearly 30 minutes 
at 15 feet.  I *STILL* felt miserable that night and the next morning. It 
was a very familiar misery - fatigue, stiffness, etc.  I don't think it's 
the N2 so much as I think it is the increased O2 on deco that we 
mixed-gas types now tend to use that seems to make the symptoms go away.

Aloha,
Rich

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 Wrolf.Courtney@do*.co* wrote:

> 
> 
> deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or* wrote on 09/02/97:
> >Everytime I go deeper than 100 feet on air I feel like shit that night
> >and the next morning.  I realized that I always felt that way before, but
> >just figured it was related to diving in general. I don't feel that way
> >at all with the helium - not even after the days where I do two deep
> >ones, and even on dives when the PN2 is greater than it is for air at
> 100-130. I don't think it's the presence of >helium as much as it is the
> elevated O2 on deco.
> 
> I felt that I mostly licked my "feel like shit" problem by hanging below
> the ceiling
> shown on my Suunto Solution.  Of course, that also slows down the rate that
> the Solution
> thinks I am off gassing at, so I wind up with both less deco stress by
> being below the
> ceiling, and more deco.
> 
> More efficient deco gas seems to have the same effect.
> 
> For DCIEM table 1S dives, I add a five minute safety stop to the deepest
> stop.  Since
> table 1S only covers required stops at 10' and 20', I know that I cannot be
> significantly
> on gassing.
> 
> I go by the assumption that "tiny bubbles" is real, but the empirical
> testing has all been
> done on Haldanean models.  So hang deep to let them bubbles bubble out, and
> then do a full
> Buhlmann or DCIEM deco schedule.
> 
> 
> Wrolf
> 
> 
> 

Richard Pyle
Ichthyology, Bishop Museum                deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*
1525 Bernice St.                          PH: (808) 848-4115
Honolulu, HI 96817-0916                   FAX: (808) 841-8968
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