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Garry Gillette (The self appointed High Priest of Hogarthianism) wrote: ......" Hogarthian configuration has reached "perfection" and should not continue to evolve, or that only a certain elite and small group are capable of the thought process necessary to facilitate its evolution"..... ....And in the 5th century BC the Assyrians under the rule of the authoritarian monarch Nebuchadnezzar ........ Yawn.... Garry, You can be the very picture of Hogarthianism and still be a stroke. The real issue here is "Doing it Right". The gear configuration bit is a necessary first step in this process. Teamwork, extreme attention to detail, clean gear configurations, precise dive planning and thinking way ahead of yourself and your buddies while anticipating every conceivable eventuality are the essence of "Doing it Rightism". This is what is practiced by the WKPP and what sets this organization aside from everything else out there. Your glib reference about the KKK, nazis and the WKPP only demonstrates your own personal shortcoming in acting without consciously considering the consequences of your actions. In this case your mindless and uninformed philosophical musings regarding the WKPP and "hogarthian principles" suggests to myself and others that perhaps you should abandon diving as an interest and pursue another discipline more suited to your demeanor such as coin and stamp collecting. On 27th Jan. 1997 Todd Leonard wrote (main points, some deletions. The > underlining is mine) > > In this note it sounds (more because of what you don't say than > because of what you say) like you're saying either that Hogarthian > configuration has reached "perfection" and should not continue to > evolve, or that only a certain elite and small group are capable > of the thought process necessary to facilitate its evolution. > Well, I disagree. Listening to the best > is a good start, but it is not sufficient. > .......................... > > Now, to my points of contention. I do not believe that Hogarthian > configuration has reached "perfection". More accurately, I do not > believe that it is the "perfect" or "final" implementation of the > Hogarthian principles. Somewhere out there is a great idea waiting > patiently for one of us to find it and integrate it with the other > aspects of Hogarthian config. I believe this because it's consistent > with history, and because doing so fails on the side of safety. If > there is no such improvement out there, the worst that can happen is > we spend time looking for something that isn't there (still not a > "waste" of time, in my opinion). If it IS out there, then looking > for it is the best way to find it and the only way to recognize it. > > OK, so who is "qualified" to look for these improvements? Everybody! > ............... > > So, on a more practical level, who is really going to put the effort > into the analysis necessary to bring it to a sound conclusion? Not > everybody, unfortunately, and this is where the "Don't dive with > strokes" concept comes into play. I think it's easier to recognize > a "non-stroke" than a "stroke". Look for someone never satisfied > with the status quo, who is willing to learn ALWAYS, and who is > willing to spend the time and energy to be as good as they know how > to be. That is who we should want to dive with, and also who we > should struggle to become. > ................... > > p.s.s. I don't like the way "Don't listen to strokes" is worded. It > really means "Don't believe strokes", which is true. We should > listen to everybody, though. Examining a good counter-example > is one good way to learn. It also helps avoid the failure mode > where you thought you were squelching a stroke, but you actually > missed out on listening to an ex-stroke or to a non-stroke with > poor communication skills. > > My comments:- > You expressed my opinions exactly Todd and did a far more articulate job of it > than I did. > In hindsight I guess a different approach was warranted on my behalf (and > others too). > > I still believe the underlying principle of what I was trying to say (as you > have expressed above) to be right > But you have found a more conciliatory way of putting it. > > Garry -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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