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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 97 02:43:31 UT
From: "Garry Gillette" <Gillette_GJ@ms*.co*>
To: cavers@ge*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: TO BE HOGARTHIAN OR NOT BE HOGARTHIAN, OR TO SIMPLY....


-----Original Message-----
From:	 
Sent:	Wednesday, 20 August 1997 9:49
To:	Matthew G. Meister
Subject:	RE: TO BE HOGARTHIAN OR NOT BE HOGARTHIAN, OR TO SIMPLY....

Good to somebody with an open and analytical mind. According to your post, you 
obviously have to adapt to given circumstances. You have two choices, adapt 
and survive or stick with something that does not work properly in those 
circumstances just to please others and live dangerously. I know which I would 
choose.

It seems you are right. Some people have lost the plot.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Matthew G. Meister 
Sent:	Wednesday, 20 August 1980 0:02
To:	Garry Gillette
Subject:	RE: TO BE HOGARTHIAN OR NOT BE HOGARTHIAN, OR TO SIMPLY....

Garry,

I agree with your statements about Hogarthianism/Nazism.

Streamlining equipment configurations is very important in overhead =
environment diving.  This is not the issue.  The issue is, however, that =
Hogarthian gear configuration has excellent attributes, but it is not =
necessarily the right configuration for every diver in every =
environment. =20

We in the colder water part of the country have special needs that the =
playboys down south would never consider.  Like configuring gear so that =
everything can be managed with thick mitts or gloves.=20

The Hogarthianists certainly have suceeded in making divers more aware =
of their gear and for that Bill Main should be comended.  Yes less is =
better.  Yes diving with equipment that makes you look like something =
out of a catalog would be cause for concern.

Whereas the merits of Hogarthianism are many as are its faults.  Lack of =
professionalism seems to be a trademark.  Calling people a bunch of =
Strokes makes me wonder about the credentials of the one who is writing =
it.  If these people are supposed to be the creme of the crop of cave =
diving, then why don't they act like it?  There is a lot for the entire =
cave diving community/tech community to be learned by various methods.  =
Is it not the responsibility of the instructors - leadership of the NACD =
and the NSS-CDS to promote safety and new technologies for the entire =
community.  Or are these so - called prominet people in cave diving =
resulting to childish name calling and lack of professionalism.

For new students out there.  Do you think they want to hear a war =
between philosophies?  It seems as if the holy wars are happening in =
Florida between people who should be concentration on professionalism.  =
By being professional, not sladerous, don't yo think these prominent =
cave diving instructors would enhance their reputation and that of the =
cave community.  This would certainly result in their increased demand =
to teach courses.  Then they preach what they need to preach.

Does any of this make sense or has everybody lost it?

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