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From: "Tony Smith" <tsmith@fl*.or*>
To: <Wrolf.Courtney@do*.co*>, <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Hogathian Precepts and the Isolation Valve
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:12:23 -0400
I catch  nothing but heat from Zero on the hogathian rig. I finally told
him to shut up because I was tired of hearing about it and if he wants to
be a bumblebee and dive the way he does, that's ok just shut up about it
already. 

I am, due to mostly genetics with some laziness thrown in, large enough to
wrap hose without a problem and EVERYONE I dive with EVERYWHERE hears about
two signals I always require before diving with them-
#1 - Thumb Up = Dive Over
#2 - You need air, just take the reg out of my mouth. I breath the long
hose so that if the event happens, it's with a minimum of fuss (I also do
it with a single for consistency's sake - a little crazy I know). I also
tell them that I fully plan on doing the same if necessary, and sometimes
they aceept it and sometimes they don't, but  if I need gas (has only
happened once early on), I'm gonna get it from a guaranteed source - my
buddy's mouth.

I never heard the story about someone free diving to deliver you gas. Pray
tell ;-).


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> From: Wrolf.Courtney@do*.co*
> To: Techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: Hogathian Precepts and the Isolation Valve
> Date: Friday, August 15, 1997 10:17 AM
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to thank everyone for the wealth of pointers.
> 
> I have already adopted many of the principles, based in large part on von
> Maier/Solo Diving, Gary Gentile's books and course,
> techdiver discussions of the past, and observing the practice of the many
> more experienced divers here in New York.
> 
> I plan on *slowly* adopting the vast majority of the Hogarthian rig -one
> piece at a time, as $ permits.
> 
> One item that I don't think is addressed is my practice when for one
reason
> or another I am buddied up with another diver.  Now, I have
> only ever been truly scared in situations caused by a buddy.  (And yes
> Tony, I include that dive that Zero must have told you about.
> I wasn't scared - I knew that John would go snorkelling and bring me some
> gas.  Tell Zero I haven't forgotten I owe him for the O2 cleaning
> etc, and dinner for everyone on the boat.)
> 
> I wind up with a buddy for one of two reasons - either I am  asked to
buddy
> up with a relative newbie, or on vacation
> when the boat has an inviolable rule.  In both of these situations, I
> explain the *REAL* signal for an out of air situation:
> an outstretched hand reaching for the regulator in my mouth.
> 
> Forget about all that waving around - waggle hand="I have a problem",
> throat cut sign="out of air", pretend to push J valve="I am on
reserve/low
> on air", point to SPG and waggle hand="low on air", point to SPG and
flash
> 5 fingers="low on air - 500 psi",  wave hand horizontally in towards
> regulator="I need to buddy breath", etc. etc.  All of the
> 
> Just take the regulator out of my mouth.  I promise to let it go.
> 
> My objective is to reduce their stress level in general, and to reduce
mine
> if they are out of air.  After all, that is what they are going to do
> anyway,
> might as well be realistic.
> 
> Safe Diving,
> 
> Wrolf
> 
> 
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