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In a message dated 97-05-29 13:55:02 EDT, you write:
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Teaching skills deep on air is pointless for a couple of
reasons. One,
it is clear that experienced divers will be more likely to be able to
perform routine tasks under more conditions, including impairment, much
like an exprienced driver can drive drunk. It is not possible to teach
people, experienced or otherwise , to do anything properly while
impaired, and certainly if you are trying to teach something to
somebody, you want them clear. They do not teach drunk driving to
anyone. I can just see the class now, with the instructor saying, " now,
everybody hold one hand over one eye". How may white lines do you see?"
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Response:
Teaching & pratical experience go hand in hand in teaching anything. Pratical
application is reinforcement of the values taught. The assesment made in the
above does not match the criteria I use in my evaluations during the
progression of programs that require (in my opinion) extended Pn2 exposure
experience. Secondly, note that the skills performed are not "routine" task,
I'm not doing fin piviots. The only real possible negative outcome of having
this application presented is that if in the end result the person being
trained feels that deep air diving is a good thing. On the other hand if the
opposite efect is achived, then true learning has taken palce.
Again, the above results I speak of could only be obtained by and should only
be attempted by the most experienced instuctors in this area.
I am by no means in favor of deep air diving as a practice I only wish to
point out it's validity, at least in my opinion, in the progression of thsi
type of advanced level training.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
THE FALLACY
One standard excuse for teaching this stuff is the old line,
"what if they have to go to air deep". My question: "Where did the air
come from? This is tech diving, and at the tech level, if instructors
have to be teaching students basic skills, they should not be taking the
class, now should they? Divers need to get some dives and time under
their belt before rushing through tech classes and paying to learn what
they should be practicing. This would be like the Miami Dolphins lifting
weights before a game .
At tech '96, Dr. Bill Hamilton intervened in an argument
between me and Hal Watts over this subject, and Hamilton told Watts,
"Hal, this is as tech diving seminar. The reason we have tech diving is
so that we do not have to dive deep on air."
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Response:
The excuse used above is not one that I would concieve of using although I
agree, I to have heard it. It has little or no basis in fact as related to my
reasoning. I have stated the general parameters of "my" reasoning in several
other post, it really is not about deep air at all...it's about training and
experience. It is also incorrect to say if you do perform a deep air training
session utilizing two decompression mixes for acceleration, that it is not a
"tech" dive.
The above comment regarding "basic" skills I do not understand, I hope there
are not any "tech" instructors out there teaching fin piviots to their
candadates.
Lastly, in regard to the quote from Mr. Hamilton, he is exactly correct and
anyone who dissagree with that has not been around long. However, that's
diving, I'm talking about "training".
All of the above is represented only as my opinion, and is not meant to be
argumentitive, rather another veiwpoint.
Safe Diving, Tony M. Satterfield
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