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From: "Ocean Diving Inc." <divetek@ic*.ne*>
To: "'gmirvine@sa*.ne*'" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>,
     Tom Mount
    
Cc: "cavers@ge*.co*" <cavers@ge*.co*>,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com"
    
Subject: RE: Atention All
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 15:16:59 -0400
Hey George...and all who may fall under the 130'ead spell,
	Is it my understanding that since you were always the first to complete =
your deco before the others due to your advanced knowledge of deco =
minimums that you now feel that the exposures you made beyond 130' on =
air have caused significant damage to your body because of the nitrogen =
density at depth that was hurting your capillaries, or could it be that =
the hastened deco may be to blame?   =20
	You also used to tell us that breathing 100% O2 on the surface was just =
as effective as the 10' stop on air. Do you still think that way? I'll =
bet you don't.
	It amuses me to read some of the twisted remarks you post to user =
groups like this one. Seems all that is needed is a follow up post to =
clear up the discrepancies. Like finding 180' of=20
Depth on the Hydro-Atlantic. At high tide you would need to wallow in =
the rudder washout to hit 174'. Even you spend most of your trimix time =
at around 115'.
	I agree with you on a lot of your views concerning the exposure to high =
narcosis and high pN2 long term effects, however, as you well know some =
are capable of adapting to short exposures and some are not.=20
	One thing I'll never get is why recreational divers have not been =
taught things like the long hose advantage and the use of EAN75- or =
greater for a safer safety stop or emergency deco gas. I guess the =
chambers wouldn't see much diver traffic if this were as common a =
practice as it is in tech diving.=20
	Keep on raggin out the clowns that won't change but remember the facts =
when bitchin in your backyard.
Sempre Quick Releases for Boat Divers!
Capt. Jim Mims   =20

-----Original Message-----
From:	gmirvine@sa*.ne* [SMTP:gmirvine@sa*.ne*]
Sent:	Tuesday, May 27, 1997 11:58 AM
To:	Tom Mount
Cc:	cavers@ge*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject:	Re: Atention All

Tom, forget all of the other stuff -let's just look at the only part
that we can legitimately second guess - the use of narcotic mixes in
dive instruction or technical diving.=20

   I have no idea who these divers or instructors are, there are always
a fleet of them on every boat, and none of them are from here. In fact,
I do not believe there is a tech instructor from this town.

   Let's just discuss the 130 aed. Everyone wants to know why nitrox
below the aed of trimix. ?? - G

Tom Mount wrote:
>=20
> G. Irvine wrote:
> >
> > OK. Let's ask Bill Mee, or better yet, explain to me why we have
> > 130 aed on trimix, and 180 on nitrox? That is the real point here, =
and
> > the only one discussed that could have been totally controlled from =
the
> > start. Why would anyone dive 25% nitrox on a dive like this?
>=20
> George !!! First as posted no one one did a dive to 180 on nitrox, the
> maximum depth reached was 157 as recorderd on her bridge computer, =
most
> of the dive was more shallow than 150.  Her actual mix as I did get =
the
> chance to analyize the gas was 24.4 in the log for gas she had logged
> 24.2 her CNS plan was based on EAN 25 and the deco was on EAN 24 being
> conservative from both ends.
>=20
> Tom
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