Date:          Thu, 15 May 1997 07:27:02 -0400
From:          George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Reply-to:      gmirvine@sa*.ne*
To:            Ted Green <scuba@md*.co*>
Cc:            techdiver@aquanaut.com, owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com,
               Rob de Groot <Rob.de_Groot@gi*.in*.co*>
Subject:       Re: Basic Backplate question

       George,
           I keep forgetting  that you dive in warm fresh water. Those 
of us who dive in the ocean know that it takes a few extra pounds of 
weight to over come the added buoyancy of diving in salt water. We 
also dive in colder water ( usually below 50 degrees ). This requires 
heavy underwear under our dry suits ( you do know what a dry suit is 
don't you George? ). The added weight of the stainless plate isn't a 
problem. In fact for some people, we mount additional weight to the 
depression in the center of the plate to reduce the amount of weight 
on their belt.
           While the harness requires some modification including 
removing the plastic buckles, 2' nylon webbing and stainless steel D 
rings seem to be what all the manufactures use. What do you use 
George, leather belts and plastic D rings?
         The double or single 100 lbs. bladder in a cordura shell work real 
well and is resistant to abrasion. The contraction bands are a 
matter of personal preference. Of course you probably prefer the Dive 
Rite wing because of those cute little pull dump valves that mount 
on the wing with a cable running through the hose to your power 
inflator. We found that the cables break, and the dump valves come 
apart. That makes them a liability. But George if you like them, then 
you go ahead and keep using them.
        George, out here in the real world, people come in different 
shapes and sizes. They dive with different objectives and with different 
needs. Consequently, they may use different equipment and modify to 
suit there own individual needs. Try to remember that a large part of 
technical diving isn't done in caves and we don't need to gear up 
exactly like you. My customers are intelligent and don't need to 
blindly follow in lock step behind an insecure egotistical baton 
twirler like you ( that is in no way a comment on the fine people
you have in your project, just my opinion of you!).

       Ted Green

P.S. George you need to start working on you spelling again. The 
correct spellings are:  from, and Faber.

George wrote:

Here we go again: advice freom a dive shop moron. The OMS plate is
fine by itself, but only if you need the additional 4 pounds of weight,
like with a rebreather ( this is where we use it), or if you have the
fabver tanks. The harness is crap and  the wings are crap.

Ted Green (owner)                
Tidewater Aquatics (Dive Store)  
Salisbury Maryland USA
TDI IT #029
SSI MI #178

The world contains but three types of people:
            1. Those who make things happen.
            2. Those who watch things happen.
            3. Those who wonder what happened.
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