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John, thanks. Do not worry: what the Chris Browns think will not stop me from doing exactly this, and as soon as I find out who else was involved, I will drag them through the same mud. I have very few freinds in diving, and I wnat to keep it that way, so that I will never be stopped short from pointing out a stroke like Palmer wehn one is in the teaching field, or otherwise holds himself up as an example. The cave diving community is loaded with idiots, and I think we can have an influence on the teckies, if we can get Mount to stop pandering to the fleet of morons out there, and take the high road. If not, we will eventaully have to add tech diving to the NACD stuff, which we now control, and then use WKPP as the higher level trainer. These guys are not going to win with me, and I know I am right, and if I want more friends, I wil get more dogs and cats. I am a high profile diver, and do hat al of thes guys widh they could do, so it is my repsponsability to point out that I do so by doing it right, and that is more than meets the eye. John Taylorl wrote: > > Good stuff, George > > However, it is certainly NOT funny that > > > the idiots out there think that there is a > > "comfort zone", a "personal narcosis level", a "tolerance", or any > > abilty what-so-ever associated with deep air diving > > since lots of newbies like me ONLY have them to learn from. For this reason I > appreciated your Palmer post. Some-one must stop such people from being > canonized. Thanks for bringing it out in the open. Without your post, it would > have been just another "unfortunate accident", > > best, > > JT > > On May 15, 13:35, George Irvine wrote: > > Subject: Re: Deep on AIR > > Art Paltz wrote: > > > > > > > > Is the problem with deep air the nitrogen or the oxygen? Is it the > > -- > > High PPO2's are risky, and certainly any time on a high ppo2 in > > water is working against the clock, and spiking a ppo2 after an extended > > exposure is a good way to seize, but most deep air problems come from > > the nitrogen before the oxygen has a chance to do its work. > > > > There are various "blackout" phases that occur, where the diver is > > alive and breathing, eyes open, but nobody home, there are total > > blackouts, there are screwups in a narced state, and then there are > > probably seizures as well. A panic mode would be well enhanced by > > narcosis and confusion, and may contribute to the accidents. > > > > However, before you get to any of that, the horrifying damage caused > > by nitrogen tension across the surfaces of the red blood cells is enough > > to keep you well out of that zone. The red cells stiffen, and as you > > know they are biconcave disks that must fold and bend to get through the > > smaller vessels. When they are jammed though rigid, the damage and > > immune reaction that follow contribute to lessions , bubble formation, > > and other insults that result in bends, feelings of being tired, and all > > kinds of other reactions and consequences. I could write fifty pages on > > the consequences, but you can figure them out yourself. > > > > To use my favorite form of expression, only a dumb fuck dives deep > > on air, and the dive community somehow seems to be a magnet for these. > > It is really funny that the idiots out there think that there is a > > "comfort zone", a "personal narcosis level", a "tolerance", or any > > abilty what-so-ever associated with deep air diving. This is always a > > dead giveaway of a stroke. - G > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >-- End of excerpt from George Irvine > > -- > -- > **** Please note new address/numbers/e-mail > John Taylor, Information Technology, CS Financial Products (Tokyo) Limited, Shiroyama Hills, 4-3-1 Toranomon, Minato-ku, Tokyo 105. > Office: (03) 5403-4204, Fax: (03) 5403-4077 email: jtaylor@cs*.co*.jp* > Home: (03) 3587-3504 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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