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Scott, they have no idea how to do these dives. I know they can not do them. They have no idea what is in that cave, and I can tell you from the description of their gear and plan that none of it will work. They will only be able to deal with the immediate area of the entrance. We have a catch 22 on our hands at WKPP: if we make it look too easy, dillatantes like Stone and King think that they and their pot-smoking fats slob buddies and dry cavers can do it. If we make it look to dangerous, we are not allowed to do it. What Stone did is go in not knowing what we had really done, since we always hold out what we really did until we think they can absorb it, and told the state that he could do it safer and better, and could go farther, despite the fact that he has never done a real cave dive in his life, and his team of weenies has never done anything anywhere anytime. Gavin alwasy told me to understate the dives so they would not think we were crazy, and in fact went so far as to say that if I ever told the truth about Turner Sink, he would publicly call me a liar. Only a few people know what the real story is on Turner, and needless to say, the big timers from usdct have never done a dive there, and it is public access. They ititially did not believe Stone, but he or one of Kings scumbags or one of the other lying sacks went over the heads of the people who declined his permit, and it cam back the other way. Now everybody looks pretty stupid, and they are stuck trying to justify kicking me out before I totally wall it out and leave nothing for the weenies to even lie about, or answering as to why these jerkoffs are in there when we have done all of the work. I will tell you one more thing - I will not say if we have actually walled it out, connected it, or how far it really is to the end of the lines, nor will I ever actualy show the routes we take to get to different locations , other than to say that it is out of their reach, and has been for three years. Unlike what is in the videos, which are all done in B Tunnel or in other look-alike caves which are in fact shallow ( Wakulla is not videoable), where we are diving is 10-20 foot vis, 280-300 on the ceiling , you can not see the floor most of the time, and it is extremely complex. There are 22 tunnels, and several circuits. We do so much of this, and I have a photographic memory for things I see,and I have surveyed every inch of the cave either as we put the line in , or to correct the boobery of the strokes,that we can navigate where nobody else could. I can recognize each wrap of the line, each rock, each feature, and can tell which way is out by the position of the line, and which line is which with no markings - ask Brent. Some lines I an identify by the loop or the tag end, the color, or the type. I can do that in ten foot vis. These guys will get pissy pants when they see the real Wakulla, and the reason I am sure of that is that not a single one of these strokes can even deal with our shallow stuff , nor do any of them ever dive Tallahassee. Ask David doolette what Tallahasse Power Cave is like - he and some other Aussies did a setup dive for us at Turner Sink. You have called it right, Scott - these guys are lame. Luckily, even though these strokes may get to dive there, we hold permtis right through theirs, but wil be diving our other locations until they are gone, other than when we come in for the body recoveries, and our permits extend well out into the future after they are gone, so we can continue our work and catch these jerks in every lie they tell. Right now, they can not make a false map like they did the first time since I know every nook and cranny in that cave, sicne I dive with extreme pros and can search and take notes without any concern with where the line is, since one of my guys is on it, and one is splitting the difference and guarding me so I can concentrate. We a;lso have the sonar image, and the survey, and have coordinated it with the surface features, closed the loops and rechecked it repeatedly. There is a reason for that which I will not discuss. They can not say they have been to the end of any lines without reporting what is there, and only three of us know, and we will not tell. We will be laughing in their face as soon as they try to lie, like we did with Sally and all of the other places. You , of course can expect the first lie to be that the cave is 360 feet deep. As everyone knows , the cave got 50 feet shallower since the first time the US Big Lying Team went in there, so we will see what bullshit they come up with this time Scott Leimroth wrote: > > George, on those rebreathers anyone with the balls or stupidity can go where > you guys are going but the high speed surveying you do is what really sets > you above the rest. They could do the dives but would be so preoccupied > trying to survive they could do no mapping at all. > Scott > > At 13:42 1/05/97 -0400, you wrote: > >tom, to map, one has to be able to dive the cave. I have made a > >"precision map", and proved it. They aren't capable of going where we > >have been - in any cave. - G > > > >Tom Mount wrote: > >> > >> Barry, > >> 1. I used your lights while in Bikini, Both Patti and I had two each as > >> safetys and they made two dives a day for 20 diving days and pe4formed > >> flawlessly, they are the best safety lights I have had. > >> > >> 2. Has anyone first hand from the USDCT ever publicly stated what they > >> plan to do. The only info I have heard stated publicly is that there > >> main focus is a precision map. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> Miller, Barry wrote: > >> > > >> > I here all this talk about the USDCT and Wakulla 2, but I hope > everyone understands what this means. While W2 is diving, the work that > >> the WKPP has been do > >> > Wakulla is a State Park and Permits should be allowed to be > accepted, but at what cost? I really do not believe the USDCT can do > >> what they claim they can. > >> > > >> > Barry > > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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