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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:31:30 -0400
From: George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: Anthony DeBoer <adb@he*.re*.or*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: still no answer
Anthony, this is exactly what I mean. you and the rest of the weenies
are hoping I would say differently - I will not. Go ahead and try me.All
of the excuses for diving with idiots don't count for shit. Dive wtih
strokes, dive like a stroke, dive deep on air, and you end up like
Chrissy's buddy. I see that Jim King had trimix for himslef, but cake
for the peons. Everybody who dives wtih nme does it right or stay the
fuck out of the water, but then I would not let a piece of shit like
Chr8is brwon anywhere near one of my dives, nor would I let Jim King
andywhere near me.

  Anthony, don;t ever write bullshit like this to me again , you little
fag, and now you need to step up and pet that pony. You are a clueless
little asshole , jsut like all of Chrissy's buddies. go ahead, Anthony,
make my fucking day.


Anthony DeBoer wrote:
> 
> George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*> wrote:
> >Chrissy, I have to thank you for giving me the opportunity to hammer
> >some of the biggest strokes in diving : you and the usdct. On your first
> >question, the sematics of how you killed your buddy diving deep on air
> >at Weenies Nest is irrelevant - the fact is, as in "Thunderdome", two
> >men ( and some may question the liberal use of that word) enter, one man
> >leaves. You are here, buddy is dead - you , my friend, are a stroke, a
> >clueless , gutless , spineless, lying stroke.
> 
> George, you seem to be implying here that anybody who goes into a cave
> and comes back out without the entire team is a stroke.  I've been
> following Techdiver for long enough to know that you of all people
> cannot mean that, but newer subscribers might not know.  By all means,
> critique the way Chris dives (I've never seen him in the water) or
> hammer anything specific he did wrong that day, but the simple fact that
> his buddy died doesn't make him a stroke all by itself.
> 
> I've gone back to the archives (www.aquanaut.com, message from Chris
> dated 13 Aug 1996, entitled "Eagle's Nest '90"), and the issues seem
> to be:
> 
>   * The other diver had an undisclosed medical condition involving
>   periodic loss of consciousness; keeping his mouth shut about
>   something that called for a no-dive decision probably sealed his
>   fate.
> 
>   * 175' on air; IMHO too deep in an overhead environment, although as
>   Eagle's Nest has been described to me they might have had a near-
>   vertical ascent to air above them.  It'd still be pushing it even in
>   openwater, though.
> 
>   * Chris' ascent may have been as slow at 35 FPM (up from 175' in maybe
>   as long as five minutes, not timed).  Bringing an unconscious diver up
>   alive from that depth is iffy, although JJ has certainly raised
>   expectations of what should be possible in that regard.
> 
> Anyway, I wasn't there, only two people were there and only one is alive
> to talk about it, and the only sense we can make out of a diver's death
> is to try to learn how not to let it happen again.
> 
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