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There is some great social end that some missinformed folks see; and that is we should all work together and be good gentle souls seeking the good for all people. The great fallacy in this is that not everyone can tolerate (nor should they) everyone else as not everyone is a reasonable human being. To the gentle people out there I say wake up and get your heads out of you know where. Great deeds and accomplishments have always come from people who do not tolerate the mediocrity of others (that is a quote from me). Sam Frushour On Thu, 1 May 1997, George Irvine wrote: > Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 11:31:29 -0400 > From: George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*> > To: freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* > Cc: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: What Can usdct Do For Us? > > Members of the WKPP keep calling me complaining that the diving > community seems to believe that there is some great benefit to the WKPP > doing a joint project with the usdct. I would like to hear one reason > why this would be true. Can anyone please give us one? > > > My personal opinion is that these guys do no real diving, have > never done any in Tallahassee, do not understand it, have no skill or > divers, have no equipment that we would use for this type of diving ( > they do not understand it , (so come up with goof ball schemes > reflecting their lack of pactical knowledge), and can give us nothing we > do not have, and can tell us nothing we do not know about how to do > this, esscpecially in light of the obvious fact that we are the only > ones who have done it. > > I will not mention my distaste for the personal habits, deameanor, > appearance and condition of these people - it is not necessary. A simple > physical exam to my specifications would eliminate each and every member > of the usdct. > > We could use some of Jim King's money, but not for this project, > and we will not be oligated to anyone for anything, nor could King make > the cut to even put bottles in the water - the catfish might scare him. > > Let's lok at the facts: WKPP has already done the dives our way. We > have developed the reabreather and have already used it. We already have > the mapper. We already have the scooters. We already know how to do the > deco without sat, and without a chamber - we have to explore the ENTIRE > region, not just the cave that has the glamour story, and we can not > even get our vehicles anywhere near most of this stuff, let alone a > bunch of toys to keep some wimps warm and dry. > > Our methods are proven and work - we do it, and then talk about it > later, not tlak about it and necer do it as is the usdct style (the > excuse masters). > > All we could possibly do wtih these guys is make ourselves look bad > by assocciation, and lose our access which would eliminate the last line > of defense for these resources. > > If anybody in the cave community thinks they can do what we do, > then why have they not ever even come close, and where have they all > been? > > WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE USDCT CAN DO FOR US? > > We avoid publicity when diving in case something goes wrong - we do > not want the sensationalism of that to cause a call for the activity to > cease. That means the only thing these guys can promise us, publicity , > is the only thing we do not want. We do not care about the diving feats > - we know we are the best, and we know how tough we are. In fact, I can > show anyone out there what tough is in a swimming pool or on a track - I > do not need to sensationalize diving.If you think you are tough, come > sit in the water with me for fifteen hours and watch me sleep while you > freeze your weenie ass off. We need attention to the resource and water > manaqement, which we are getting for the DEP, and we are doing it with > hard, cold facts , connections, and results, not the bullshit of Dr > Blarney ( never done nothin') Stone, or any of the other wannabees on > his long list of strokes. > > Tell me the benefit to WKPP????????????? > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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