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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 07:42:39 -0400
From: George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ge*.co*, freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*
Subject: The Real American Caving Story
Despite efforts by Bill stone and the IANTD to promote lies and
bullshit, the real story on American caving is as follow: Stone does not
do any, and neither do the strokes he has acummulated in his entourage.

  There are several groups. In Missouri a lot of very difficult stuff is
done in cold water. In Pennsylvania we have NEST doing dry/wet stuff.
There are several other groups in the region. In dry caving, and sump
diving, the list is immense, and the explorations incredible. Stone is
not involved. In Florida, there is Crystal Beach, a great project, Weeki
Watchie and Twin D's, a prolific group doing seriously difficult deep
and complex exploration, and many other groups in Florida. All of these
groups have cross members in the WKPP. The WKPP has been around for ten
years and has not only explored America's longest underwater cave, it
has developed all of the gear, techniques and trimix guidlines for this
type of diving, and has done so in a timely fashion and has shared this
information. We have also opened dive sites previously closed for good.
Stone is not part of this, nor are any of his strokes, nor will they
ever be - this is not their interest.

    We habve listened to Stone's bullshit for ten years - he has never
done a single thing. Jim King has done nothing but weenie and screw up,
and their henchmen have never done anything but lie about their diving.
This groups worst nightmare is the WKPP - we do the diving, we develop
the gear, we get the job done, and we do it rght here and now, and with
me, you HEAR ABOUT IT AFTER I DO IT, NOT BEFORE. Stone is lying, and
until he does his first deep cave dive with anything, the truth is that
he has not ever done anything adn never will

     THE wkpp WILL NOT EVER BE INVOLVED WITH THESE IDIOTS, IT IS US WHO
DOES THE EXPLORATION, AND IT IS THE USDCT THAT IS INTERFERING - THEY
HAVE NOTHING WE WANT.

     WKPP developed the cave diving rebreather ( the cis is a bad copy
of the EX19 which is designed by wkpp team members), the scooters, the
sonar mapper, the lights, the methods, and the accessories, as well as
the trimix deco - usdct has not ever done jack shit, and never will -
thes strokes do not even dive. Only a real idiot would think they could
do anything, but then there is no lack of idiots in Florida. I can not
belive this bullshitter flies to London to lie when he coould stnd right
here and tell the truth - the truth is the the WKPP is the team that has
explored Wakulla, and there is nothing there that the strokes at usdct
will ever see. The truth is that they have no clue how to do this, and
are seeking audiences who are equally cluesless to lie to.
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