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From: rat@ne*.co* (Miller, Barry)
To: "Techdiver@aquanaut.com" <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "'Robert Major'"
    
Subject: RE: Deco Fraud
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 12:49:50 -0500
   Here we go with more fake e-mail. Why do assholes like this hide =
behind lies to try to discredit the WKPP. Dave Miner stops diving deep =
and this guy says we are droping like flys. What ever gave this guy the =
idea that he could dive at Wakulla? George may be the Project Leader, =
but even he will tell you that the rest of us would VETO someone like =
this.

Barry

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From: 	Robert Major[SMTP:bobmajor@ro*.co*]
Sent: 	Thursday, April 03, 1997 1:31 PM
To: 	Techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: 	Deco Fraud

Dear Fellow Divers,

Some of what of I have read on this and the cavers list over the past
few days has got me really concerned.  You see I just completed my
IANTD mixed gas certification and I recently obtained my full cave
from a local instructor here in the Tampa area.  For the past several
years I have been planning to join the WKPP and put my gas training to
good use, but now I am having major second thoughts about this course
of action.

Some people would term me as being "robust".  I am a fairly big guy
and weigh in around 290 @ 5'11", but this doesn't impair my athletic
interests which include golf, fishing and handball.  My IANTD
instructor recommended that I purchase Pro-Planner and I have been
generating lots of tables for some of the dives I am anticipating
having to do with the WKPP.  I confirmed most of these calculations
with a bootleg copy of Decom that one of the guys in my mix course
gave me and feel that the deco should be no problem until I read some
of last weeks posts. =20

I did several training dives for my IANTD mix course on some deep
wrecks out of Pompano with Ocean Diving.  These were serious dives and
had bottom times on the order of 35 to 45 minutes or so I thought. I
figured that If wasn't getting bent after doing 45 minutes at 250 then
I would not get dcs on any of the big dives that WKPP does. After
seeing that some of WKPP's top divers were dropping out like flies at
a raidfest I went back and recalculated my "big" dives with Ocean
Diving.  Fact of the matter was these dives that I thought were big
were in fact more like 10 - 15 minutes or less of actual bottom time
when you took into consideration the surface prep, descent and ascent=20
time.=20

Eee Gads!! What would happen when a guy like me, who's carrying a
little extra padding, does one of these  dives in Wakulla.  If George
Irvine (I've seen him in his Doing it Right video and I find it hard
to believe that he is really 50 years old, or so he claims) gets what
he terms "slobitis" (tissue bubble damage to less vascularized
abdominal fat with associated edema and swelling) on a "routine" dive
of 45 - 100 minutes of real bottom time. What is my waistline going to
look like after I step up and "pet the pony" as George terms it.  As
it is my charge account records reflect a few too many visits to the
Big Man/Tall Man store.=20

The bottom line is that I am a victim of a complete fraud perpetrated
by IANTD and probably all of the other "tech diving" certification
agencies (but I don't know because I am not familiar with the details
of their programs). They make "tech" diving seem like a walk in the
park that anybody can learn to do, especially guys who are slightly
challenged in the weight department, like myself.   They hype up these
deco programs and make us plan all of these big long dives, with
figuring the gas mixes and CNS toxicity and equivalent breathing rates
 and all of the other bull and we ( I ) start feeling that gee whiz
now I'm a big shot and can walk into these open water dive shops and
throw around all of these "techno terms" and make some heads turn. =20

I can just picture it now. I walk into my local dive shop after a big
Wakulla dive and this is what probably will happen.=20

 "Ed, you look like you gained some weight and are in some serious
pain, by the way how did the dives at Wakulla go and why are you all
black and blue?"

"It went great.  Do you fellas want to buy some dive gear ? I'm going
back to playing golf.  Hows about a set of 104s and a transpac ?





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