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George, As I said before, I'm getting bored of this shit. Most people I know thought Joe was pretty funny and made some good points, but I'm pretty confident Joe King won't be posting again. If you are upset about Joe King getting attention, go send some abusive email to yourself, since you blew it all out of proportion by harrassing people about it and forwarding private email to public lists. As far as "lies" about JJ are concerned - you need to learn the distinction between what is reality and what you wish was reality. Perhaps habitual fake email and lying has loosened your grip on this. JJ is by all accounts a fine instructor, but here are some facts: he gave Carl Heinzl private lessons for cave, drysuit, and trimix, all in two week period (Carl weenied on the deep air dive, so washed out of trimix the first time). This is a guy who can make it 600' up the main line on a set of double 104s - I and others on your team were diving at Ginnie while he was taking lessons and talked to him about it. I believe Heinzl was back in Florida last week, for more private lessons to finish trimix and get guided cave scootering tours (I believe this was who John Todd was referring to when he mentioned "Wide Load"). And then there's Tennant, who has been back to JJ for more training after the incident which caused great embarrasment to you and WKPP. I don't blame JJ for this, because these guys would just go to somebody else for the training, and JJ does have to make a living. If these facts are embarassing to you, talk to JJ, don't claim they are lies. Does JJ teach strokes? Are Tennant and Heinzl strokes? To both questions, I honestly say "I don't know." If you say they are strokes, Chief, then JJ teaches strokes. If you say they aren't, then he doesn't. Either way, I don't care. John > Date: 20 Mar 97 04:45:42 > From:"gmiiii@in*.co*" <gmiiii@in*.co*> > To:JHEIMANN.US.ORACLE.COM,<JHEIMANN@us*.or*.co*>,gmiiii@in*.co* > Subject:Re: Fwd: Fwd: Joe > Cc:kens@uf*.ed*,jwei@ci*.uf*.ed* > X-Mailer:SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit > Content-Type:text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > "John, you're limping". Did you ever see "The Eiger > Sanction"? Ever read "The Telltale Heart". If I had time , I > would hammer the same strokes that Tennant was working over, > only I wait for a skillet shot ( where they are all sitting > on the road and I can hold the shotgun four inches off the > ground and get fifty at once). > > The fact is that we have several people who have learned > the hard way, like Bill Gavin, and in my opinion, which > quite frankly is the only fucking one that counts , that > makes him more qualified to discuss procedure. > > The other obvious fact is that this is how the rest of us > learned, sans the dead part. I do not care about the > feelings or opinions of anyone who has not been downtown - > end of story. > > I am tired of this "pecking order" crap. If you are > hanging around strokepits instead of exploring cave and > doing research, you are a stroke, and what kind of petty > arguments you get into with the other strokes is what you > deserve - see no stroke, be no stroke. We have 200 sqaure > miles to work where none of the birds and bees watching you > will give a shit that you have a Gavin scooter, that you > dive with WKPP, or that you are doing it right. None of > these creatures will argue with you, and none of them will > get on the internet and say they saw a WKPP diver who they > think they are better than. None of them is named Bill > Rennaker and will not call the sheriff. None of them is > named Wide Load and will write letters to the NSS. None of > them will bother us at all. > > New England wreck divers are all Mondo Bizarro , and > need to be called strokes, just like their mutant > counterparts in Mayberry, FL. You know, it took me ten years > to quit putting a Mass zip code on everything I did, and I > recognized it right away - that was the only place I ever > wrote letters from, since I could not afford to use the > phone. > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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