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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:02:15 -0800
Subject: Q.E.D. on Hose Stuffing - Orlowski's Student
To: cavers@ge*.co*

         It only gets funnier in the saga of doing it like a 
stroke, and trying to explain it away: Shelley Orlowski 
called me today to give me the heads up the assertion that 
Orlowski's Student had come up with a great stuffing 
technique. As it turns out, some know-it-all engineer showed 
up prestuffed to Orlowski from strokery learned elsewhere, 
and in all fairness, had been taught to be a stroke, and was 
merely trying to come up with a better stroketrap. Orlowski, 
who is not a hose stuffer, said , "knock your stroke ass 
out", and let him have at it. When the stroke cleared, a 
certain TD ( not Orlowski or the student) had drilled holes 
in his own backplate and was teaching this new form of 
idiocy, and Orlowski's Student realized how stupid this is, 
and went to the right way. 

      As I said, rigging , thinking and being a stroke are 
all the same - if you are a stroke before you get into the 
ater, you are a stroke in the water. If you have no plan, no 
system, no clue, and have not thought this out, then you are 
a stroke. Rule number one, and this can be applied to 
everything in life is "don't -----(do whatever) with 
strokes" - they will get you every time.

       Anyone who can not see the whole picture is a stroke. 
If they can not see that a convoluted cluster of gear equals 
a clusterfuck underwater, then they are an accident waiting 
to happen, and the appearance of these guys is enough to 
warn you in advance - be so forwarned, please. 

       All you have to do is read Bill Gavin's 33 page 
chapter on gear rigging, where he goes over all of the 
systems and debunks them meticiculously - that is why his 
chapter was supressed for seven years - because the idiot 
drooling goobers were still and are still teaching this 
stupidity.

       None of you can come up with the logic of the 
stuffing system, and yet you teach it. Either come out here 
and argue with me, or I will pull you asinine posts out of 
the archives, and parade you around like the bufffoons that 
you are, and then put you over on Bentley's stroke page for 
all to see. After this weekend, we wil be posting some of 
the most heinous atrocities we have been able to photgraph 
from the usual srokepits - you guys better hope Leon Sinks 
clears pretty soon, as you can see we are getting bored. - G




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