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At 03:32 AM 11/03/1997 -0500, Satterfield (EliteDive@ao*.co*) writes: >it is clear to me that Morral took the disk >that him and Ed finally got me to send him last >year after DEMA,... > he was supposed to put togeather an instrctor >text but he never came up with it, he stole my work >and screwed ANDI... >What you are reading fool is my work which he >ripped off... >he copied peoples work and sold,... >My friend that is my work you are reading, except >and of that ridiculous crap he put in... Right, Satterfield, let me get this straight: 1. You inform us all that you wrote a technical programme from scratch. 2. I discover that you copied major portions of it straight out of an existing Instructors manual. 3. You then claim this Instructor's manual was really secretly written by you but you were pusuaded to give it to Paul Morrall after DEMA 1996 and he published it and pretended it was his so really you were only copying from yourself so the whole thing is one big misunderstanding and Morrall is really the thief. OK Satterfield. I think its time we paid a little visit to Mr Reality. The Instructors manual you copied was released in September 1994, long before you arrived at ANDI. It was written by Ed Betts and others, including Mark Silverstein and Richard Nicholls. It was completed, authorised and published BEFORE you joined ANDI. You had nothing to do with it apart from copying it over a year later for 'your' 1996 "complete global technical program," and telling us all how you'd written everything from scratch. This 1994 Instructors manual doesn't contain any of the weird crap you mentioned. And the language is too clear and concise for you or Morrall to have written it. Each page is dated September 1994 and is marked with the ANDI copyright line. The author is noted as Ed Betts, and he is also listed under the copyright inclusion paragraph. You accused Morrall of printing the manual out from a purloined disk you sent to him in Australia. Well, the manual I'm looking at is printed on US letter-size paper - a size we do not use here, we use A4; and the pages are contained in US letter-size plastic sleeves made by K&M in California - a size and brand impossible to obtain here. Ed sent this manual out from the US. This manual is a genuine, original Born-In-The-USA Instructors Manual, authorised by Ed Betts in September 1994 and sent to Australia by Ed Betts. In fact, I was trained from it before you joined ANDI and my certification was authorised by Ed Betts. You, Satterfield, turned up OVER A YEAR LATER, copied the text from this Instructor's manual and then claimed it as your own original work in 'your' Technical manual. This Instructors manual is PHYSICAL PROOF THAT YOU ARE NOT THE AUTHOR OF A LARGE PART OF THE TEXT WHICH YOU CLAIM TO HAVE ORIGINATED. You deserve a good smack. It is also testament to your character that when you were caught with your hand in the cookie jar (all the way up to your elbow, too), the first thing you did was try to blame someone else. This bodes well for anyone caught in a cave with you when the shit hits the fan. For every person who labours over the creation of something original, there are a thousand maggots eager to fatten themselves, financially and otherwise on someone else's sweat. I don't want to drop down to your pathetic level of bullying and name calling. Unless name calling is deadly accurate it says more about the caller than the called. But just remember this: Every time you call me 'fool' or 'pin-head' or 'little dog' I and others on these lists will know it is because you don't have anything honest or relevant to say. rgrds billyw Did you hear the one about Satterfield's friend? He turned round too fast and got it in the chest. ----------------and there's more------------------------ You wrote: > >>When I presented my program to these guy's... > >>the main comment was this is to hard... > > >No, their main comment was "make sure that its > >not too hard (too big a leap) compared to the > >CSU course." > > >Only two possibilites exist: either you are lying , or >you have been lied to, No Satterfield, there are many possibilities. One being that you are not telling the truth. >the comment about being to hard was exactly the comment >made, they wanted to push my program up to erd That's because you were talking about accelerated decompression with 80% 02 and other stuff which they considered more appropriate for an extended range course. You later decided not to put this stuff into the technical course. > >Nichols not much better, he thinkd you dive with an isolator > > valve closed and you can't turn you valves on and off. > > There's that memory drop-out again Tony. Very convenient.The > sentence is " Isolation manifolds should be used with both > systems isolated if the diver finds himself in a position where > he is unable to isolate the system." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >That one is really good if the diver finds himself in a >position where he is unable to isolate the system, such as >what? restrictions. what else? >whay don't you call up Ed Betts or Tony Zimos and >ask them about Morrals contribution. I'm not questioning Morrall's contribution, I'm questioning your light fingered approach to writing. > Ask him whay the Austrailian version of the TSD instructor text was not autorized, I don't have an Australian version. I have the September 1994 US version. The one you copied 'your' stuff from. >what you have has never been seen by anyone at HQ, >and it is my work form what you describe. It originated at ANDI HQ before you ever arrived there. >Tell me did Paul leave in the part about doing a buddy >check at the surface, then desceding to 10fsw and doing >another check, then to 20fsw and another check, the , yes >I am not joking to 30fsw and do another check, then if >everthing is OK proceed with the dive plan. There's none of this clown shit in any of the ANDI manuals I've read. >. What you have is >NOT an ANDI text from what you describe. You'd have to say that, wouldn't you? But it's the ANDI Technical Instructors Manual, copyright ANDI September 1994. >what reason Ed would have to pay me a large sum of money, and a contract for the work, I only sold him >the exclusive rights to distribution not the book >itself, he has obligations according to our contract. >Why would he do this if what you say had any >possibility of being true ? Good question isn't it? >>Explain that one >>> Easy. Perhaps you didn't sell him what he paid you for. >I would loive to see this work you are talking about, I >will gladly purchase a copy , please tell me where I can > get one. Any ANDI instructor training facility. It's the Technical Instructor's Manual. Copyright ANDI, September 1994. > do some checking around ANDI HQ try them, go to the >source. I'll do just that. Just stop wriggling 'round while I'm hitting you. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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