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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:47:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Why?
To: Joe King <joeking@ro*.co*>
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*

  Good questions: it takes more that exploration divers to run a poject - it
even takes non-divers. What would you have me to with Dr Brigmon, Dr Hamilton,
Jack Kellon, Dr Martin, etc? They can not do much diving. 

  As far as Casey and Gavin, you do not know why they quit, I do, as you do not
understand . Talk to them , do not speculate about them on here. I dove with
Bill Gavin for four years stedy, and with Casey for about the same - they moved
on. Gavin pased the project to me.

  If people wnat to come down here and take classes to learn something, and
take that home with them, so be it. You call JJ and ask him yourself - I do not
care what he does so long as he shows up to dive with me, but then you do not
get that part do you? you also do not understand that JJ and I are close
personal friends, and have been for seven years, as well as dive partners. You
do not know how anything about somethinglike that, as it does not exist with
you.

  Nothing is going to change with WKPP. We are not adding any people at all,
the current divers will move up the ranks - there are enough to last years, and
that is the end of it. I have no more time for cave diving, and do not want to
risk the access I have. We have cememented that due to other things we do,
which none of you understand while you are criticizing us, and the best bet for
me is to close the doors. We have spent the lst three years training people,
and they will carry the ball for the next five yers of our existing permits.

   If you or anyone esle feel they should be in the place of some of these
guys, just send me the list of deep long range dives you have done, and express
your willing ness to conform to our rules , and you , too can have your shot -
my bet is that that adds nothing, and there is nobody esle out there who can do
this - my bet from experience.
My bet is that none of you has what it takes

    My other bet is that even if you could, you would not want to once you knew
what it involves - nobody else does. 

    I can see you have done a hell of a lot of research on us, and you know
things that only a few of us know. I can also tell you that all you have
succeeded in doing is making my two dive partners very suspicious of other team
members.What you are missing is that I do not care about what you refer to ,
and I know the real story and you do not. I can tell where you are getting your
information because of that slant, and all you are doing is making life
difficult for eveyone but me - I am to obuys in the real world to do anything
but show up and dive, and that is the whole idea of a giant team like this -
eveyone has a purpose, and the bottom line is we do it, you don't, we have the
keys to the kingdom due to our hard work, and you have a big mouth and nothign
but you dick in your hand , again. I'll be diving power cave and you can watch
the movies, which is as it should be




On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Joe King <joeking@ro*.co*> wrote:
>Mike Tennant writes:
>
>>Hey Tony (superstroke), how are you fuckface. You are a knuckle

>dragging
>>spineless puke. You are the reason why ANDI really fucking sucks the
>big
>>one. the best thing you and your boyfriend Ed can do is close up shop
>and
>>get the fuck out of Dodge.
>
>George, 
>
>I'd be happy to just go away.  But first, why don't you tell this guy
>and all the other do-nothing weenie wannabe-WKPP leeches,  who shout
>"superstroke" from behind you and your team's achievements, to shut
>the fuck up and stop embarrassing you, themselves and the good people
>on WKPP?  I'm sure that you will never let him back to any WKPP sites
>after he embarrased the whole team at Wakulla, so why don't you just
>cut him and the other leeches loose?  Don't you think there is a
>reason why your best divers, like Gavin and Casey, got sick of the
>bullshit and left the team?  
>
>Truth is, I used to think JJ was the best in the business, until he
>started putting money over judgement.  I'd be embarrased enough having
>my name on Tennant's cave card without then taking him back for trimix
>so it could be on another C card of his!  And how could JJ responsibly
>take Carl Heinzl's money when he enrolled in cavern, intro, full cave,
>drysuit, scooter pilot, and whatever else, all in two weeks?  The best
>gear configuration and procedures in the world wouldn't turn an open
>water diver, much less a slob like Heinzl, into a deep cave explorer
>in ten days.  

>
>Joe
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