Martha, Robert brought me a copy of the mag, and I am looking at the cover 
right now - this is a posterboy for strokes are us. Anybody this stupid should 
not be cave diving. This is typical of central Florida morons, the ones who are 
fighting with me constantly, but it serves to point out everything I have been 
saying:

  Points of Strokery

1 - helmet - somebody tell me what this is all about 

2 - wrong drysuit - neopreme - buoyancy changes with depth - real stupid since  
   price for a real suit is almost the same

3- the reason he can not afford a real drysuit is on his wrist - a $700  
   bracelet

4- the wrong kind of reel 

5 - Odin second stage reg - an upstream valve reg requiring special hose ends,
a 
relief valve, and one that con not be cleaned out underwater, and gives water 
when scootering, but then this joker will not be doing any scootering with this 
rig

5 - crap everywhere hanging off of the front - who is this joker's instrucotor?

6 - little bungies and jiglies, and do-dads everywhere - the sign of a stroke

7 - turn the page for the real horror, after viewing the moronic spray of hoses 
   everywhere

8 - butt mounted  light - notice the cord, and what I have been saying about    
 that. Look at the way this piece of shit is attached to the tanks - what     
kind of blithering idiot would dive like this?

9 - notice that this is the ulitmate stroke - INDEPENDENTS - 

10 - and see the slobbery of the hoses from the other angle, but picuture is
too 
amaturish to see what the rest of the rig has - my kids take better underwater 
pictures that this

  THE PROBLEM - we are attempting to learn a serious technical sport from
bozos. 
Cave divng instruction used to be by appointment omly, and only the most 
experienced guys taught it. Much of the fine points were actually taught by 
non-instructors, like Bill Gavin, Bill Main, Lamar English and others, who
would 
dive with those who asked, like me.

  I remmber the TD, Tom Mouth, and the CDS TD, Lamar Hires, getting all bent
out 
of shape with Lamar English for taking me to the end of the upstream Cortyard
in 
Madison while I was taking my cave course, since in Mount's case he has still 
never been there, and Lamar thought this was a big dive - it is a big joke.

  The reason diving is so hard for people who get the standard instruction is 
outlined in graphic detail in Dive Training magazine, along with the Stroke of 
the Month on the cover to prove it. 

  The next time you have a question about what the cave community thinks , look 
at this mag, and just say "no" to these idiots. I am now upping my number to
99% 
- 99% of the dive insructors out there are cluesless morons, fat slobs, 
pontificating know-it-alls, gear-selling maggots, goobers, dumb asses, 
mongoloids, mutants, and strokes. For so-called Technical training, I am upping 
my estimate of incompetence to 99.44/100%, like in the Ivory Snow adv, since 
what you all are getting from thes bozos is a huge snow job, and The Mouth's 
attempts to defend the indefensible is proof that there is a stroke in the 
woodpile. I do not see anybody but Tony ( who himself needs to take a cave 
diving course), and the Mouth ( who has created an army of strokes) who are 
trying to argue this point with me.  

   A proper rig is safer - argue that with me,m and be prepared to show your
log 
book first - we don't take plastic.


  George Irvine

   
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