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Recently I did send a mail to "wreckdivers" and received numerous
inspiring replies. Including one I thought was of the hand of George.
Therefore ,and because by own experience I see a lot of duplicated
messages, I assumed these messages were automatically copied to the
"techdivers" list.
Later I received a note saying that since I did reply directly to
"wreckdivers" it probably didn't arrive to whom it was mend.
Now I take into account that it could be a set-up by someone
impersonating George. In that case, forget I mentioned the whole
thing. But than again if not, he wouldn't receive it, and that would
be a pity, ain't it.
If you are interested you can proceed reading, if not just .....
THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE WAS:
Wreckers,
Daniel Fountain noticed it was quiet on this list, and me for one
think that's not a good idea. I certainly want to learn something
here.
So : Who is taking the beat and will explain how to rig for wreck
diving. No I'm not asking for a Hogartian litany, I don't oppose to
that but want to now where you guys leave your crowbar, your chisel,
your hamer and lifting bags.(I normally take 2 off 100 kg bags).
I'm diving a trilaminaat dry suit and have my chisel in a knife holder
strapped on my upper leg. The hamer is hooked to my weight belt as is
my crowbar. But that is no ideal place. Sometimes I see it strapped
near the Cylinder but than you need the help of your buddy to reach it
and my intention is ALWAYS to be self-reliant.
Who has a good suggestion ? (Best should be out of side and in reach)
One of the lifting bags is rolled around a belt and I wear it around my
waist. This way the bag is on my back and I can reach it easily
unlocking the buckle on my waist. There are no loose ends to that belt
so it can not been mistaken by the weight belt.
Who care to comment to the above ?
Rob de Groot
THE REPLY I RECEIVED .......
Rob,
you've got it all figured out - I'd love to see one of you guys try to
swim with me sometime, and then check the gas mileage - what is the big
attraction of fighting the laws of physics? Hogarthian "littany" - how
about blatent storkery, ill-thought out stupidity, mindless nonsense,
and one-dimensional tunnel vision?
Why not just sink the boat and draqg all of your gear around the wreck
with you?
THE ANSWER, (this way I'm sure it arrive at the correct list).
Hello G, (or is it, the remark was not signed ? But it was insulting
enough so it probably is you.)
Anyway
Glad to hear from you again. I thought they had banned you from this
list.
Also I'm happy to see that now I'm a member of the group that proudly
can say they have been named a stroke.
Since this is proof that those who are members were not afraid to
stick out their neck and risk being flamed while giving a contribute
to the most important feature of this list : sharing experiences.
Okee, enough of that, I usually pick out the positive things of this
list anyway, leaving the flames for what they are. And the positive
thing is you seem to be open to have me and others like me to swim
with you sometime. Sorry can't make it this weekend, there is an ocean
in between us.
Meanwhile don't hesitate to inspire us with useful information.
By the way what do you mean with your gas mileage ? If it refers to
the amount of litres you use per minute I would be interested in what
you consider normal and I trust you not to on brag about it. I
definitely don't want to enter a contest but my diving computer a
Aladin Pro NITROX always try to convince me that I use 10 to 15 litres
a minute and to me that's normal but most divers I know think that's
very little.
For the rest who gave input to the wreck gear rigging, Thanks.
I took notice and highly respect the point of view that wrecks should
be preserved as a museum and the same goes for those divers who's
basic equipment is only expanded with a camera, but my truth is equal
to the contribution of esat atikkan. There are "unique" and "not
unique" wrecks and the salty water, the strong tides, storms and
fishing nets have a terrible influence on what ever is left of a
wreck. If we don't cannibalise (is this a correct word?) a wreck and
leave it untouched it would be completely disappeared in 20 years
depending on it's size of course. But for wrecks that are considered
really old, say 200 years, when ever their remains appear above the
sand, we have the same attitude and respect.
Further I noticed that strangely enough the reactions where basically
towards the placing of the liftbag. I like to compare the solution
"but mounted" with my solution "wearing like a belt".
In both cases the actual lifting bag is positioned on the but just
below the tanks and therefore streamlined. Picking the bag out of the
bungi cord seems effortless but so is unlocking a belt that is around
your waist. If you really looking for bad arguments you could say the
belt can get stuck somewhere, but if you have ever experienced this
with your weightbelt it's always the lead that's stuck and not the
belt itself. The belt is tightly to the body so there should be no
problem. I'm not sure if the bungi cord at your back enables you to
put your lifting bag back to your but (difficult sentence!). If for
any rason my lifting bag can not be used I roll it around the belt
again and easily put it back. So far I have used it and it worked for
me, but to tell the truth I never used the bungy cords.
It also struck me that independently a few of the contributions
referred to a bag that's held in your hand or strapped to a D-ring. I
consider this strange I always try to keep my hands free and the only
time I can not is when I hold my light if it is not attached somewhere
and when I'm actually working with the tools.
And in my opinion a separate bag would drastically raise your drag.
Are there any more smart solutions to firmly attach your tools to your
body ?
Looking forward to the next response.
Rob de Groot
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