Hello G, (or is it, the remark was not signed ? But it was insulting enough so it probably is you.) Anyway Glad to hear from you again. I thought they had banned you from this list. Also I'm happy to see that now I'm a member of the group that proudly can say they have been named a stroke. Since this is proof that those who are members were not afraid to stick out their neck and risk being flamed while giving a contribute to the most important feature of this list : sharing experiences. Okee enough of that I usually pick out the positive things of this list anyway, leaving the flames for what they are. And the positive thing is you seem to be open to have me and others like me to swim with you sometime. Sorry can't make it this weekend, there is an ocean in between us. Meanwhile don't hesitate to inspire us with useful information. By the way what do you mean with your gas mileage ? If it refers to the amount of litres you use per minute I would be interested in what you consider normal and I trust you not to on brag about it. I definitely don't want to enter a contest but my diving computer a Aladin Pro NITROX always try to convince me that I use 10 to 15 litres a minute and to me that's normal but most divers I know think that's very little. For the rest who gave input to the wreck gear rigging, Thanks. I took notice and highly respect the point of view that wrecks should be preserved as a museum and the same goes for those divers who's basic equipment is only expanded with a camera, but my truth is equal to the contribution of esat atikkan. There are "unique" and "not unique" wrecks and the salty water, the strong tides, storms and fishing nets have a terrible influence on what ever is left of a wreck. If we don't cannibalise (is this a correct word?) a wreck and leave it untouched it would be completely disappeared in 20 years depending on it's size of course. But for wrecks that are considered really old, say 200 years, when ever their remains appear above the sand, we have the same attitude and respect. Further I noticed that strangely enough the reactions where basically towards the placing of the liftbag. I like to compare the solution "but mounted" with my solution "wearing like a belt". In both cases the actual lifting bag is positioned on the but just below the tanks and therefore streamlined. Picking the bag out of the bungi cord seems effortless but so is unlocking a belt that is around your waist. If you really looking for bad arguments you could say the belt can get stuck somewhere, but if you have ever experienced this with your weightbelt it's always the lead that's stuck and not the belt itself. The belt is tightly to the body so there should be no problem. I'm not sure if the bungi cord at your back enables you to put your lifting bag back to your but (difficult sentence!). If for any rason my lifting bag can not be used I roll it around the belt again and easily put it back. So far I have used it and it worked for me, but to tell the truth I never used the bungy cords. It also struck me that independently a few of the contributions referred to a bag that's held in your hand or strapped to a D-ring. I consider this strange I always try to keep my hands free and the only time I can not is when I hold my light if it is not attached somewhere and when I'm actually working with the tools. And in my opinion a separate bag would drastically raise your drag. Are there any more smart solutions to firmly attach your tools to your body ? Looking forward to the next response. Rob de Groot _____ _________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Wreck gear rigging Author: gmiiii@in*.co* at nxinternet Date: 22-1-97 15:10 >Who care to comment to the above ? ---- Rob, you've got it all figured out - I'd love to see one of you guys try to swim with me sometime, and then check the gas mileage - what is the big attraction of fighting the laws of physics? Hogarthian "littany" - how about blatent storkery, ill-thought out stupidity, mindless nonsense, and one-dimensional tunnel vision? Why not just sink the boat and draqg all of your gear around the wreck with you? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Please send messages for the WreckDiver list to: wreckdiver@wr*.co* Send subscription and help requests to: wreckdiver-request@wr*.co* +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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