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From: Jon Guizar <jeg154@ps*.ed*>
To: "'Jarrod'" <BeccaFry@ao*.co*>, "'Cavers List'" <cavers@ge*.co*>,
     "'George Irvine'" ,
     "'Ken Charlesworth'" ,
     "'Mark Geleskie'" ,
     "'Barry Miller'"
To: "'Techdiver List'" <techdiver@terra.net>, "'Craig and Tom'" <tjg4@ps*.ed*>
Subject: dry gloves
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:54:21 -0500
If you have already received this message,  I apologize.   The first =
time I tried to send it a received about 30 messages that it was not =
deliverable.  =20
										Jon

Much of my diving is in 34deg. To 38deg. Water.    What we like to use =
is the Viking dry glove (shell).   The best liner I have found is a =
thinsulate  "garden glove" made by 3M.  The glove can be fragile and a =
pair of wet gloves or mits can be carried as backup.   What I have done =
to mine is to "reinforce" the high wear areas by bonding another layer =
of old glove to the surface.   We use nylon tubing under the wrist seal =
that can be pulled out in an emergency to stay dry after installing your =
backup mit/glove. =20

I choose this method because it affords me the dexterity I prefer while =
maintaining the warmth I need.  =20

An example of the liners - I was using argon so did not experience the =
situation by my dive partner was using air.   During an ice dive that we =
completed this past Sunday in 34 degree water, we surfaced after about =
one hour of bottom time.  After getting out of our rigs and starting to =
remove our gloves, my partner noticed that inside the dry glove shell =
and on the outside of the 3M liners was a coating of ICE !!   In spite =
of this,  the inside of the liner was still dry and warm.  I have tried =
many different types of liners but none have even come close to matching =
the performance of these.

Hope this helps,
						Jon Guizar							"Safety is NOT an Accident"


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