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Mark, Bottom line........ Dive as you will, but remember....Rule No. 1! Michael J. Kravit Boca Raton, Florida mkravit@mi*.co* ---------- > From: Mark Welzel <mark@mr*.co*> > To: mkravit@mi*.co* > Cc: wreckdiver@wr*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: My goodness! > Date: Monday, January 13, 1997 4:45 PM > > Or kill my ass. What happens if some fool gets > tangled in your line and cuts it? What, you can't > find your way back without a line? In my opinion > then you should NOT be there. Progressive > penetration is my motto in overhead environments. > My opinion and my decisions have given me many > enjoyable, safe and (in my view) productive dives. > Obviously it works FOR ME. So don't try to force > feed me your crap. Argue the merits of a system, > technique, piece of gear or whatever and stop preaching. > > Amen, > Mark > ---------- > > Michael J. Kravit, AIA wrote: > > > > Mark wrote among other things..... > > > > > My sometimes unpopular belief that no penetration lines > > > should be run into a wreck stems from my feeling that > > > you should not count on that line being there to guide > > > you out. Someone might cut it for any number of reasons, > > > it might be cut on the wreck or you may lose it in poor > > > visibility or due to malfunctioning light(s). > > > > Mark, > > > > Well it might not also. But on the other hand it might just save your God > > damned ass. > > > > > I think that progressive penetration is the only way to > > > safely explore a wreck. It does take time and dedication. > > > You need to learn all you can about the wreck, study > > > deck plans. other's drawings and you mostly need to > > > develop skills that will help you identify wreck layouts > > > and landmarks. This way no matter what happens to your > > > line, you can find your way out of the wreck and back > > > to the anchor line. > > > > I still fail to see why having an extra safety feature such as a line in > > your opinion would be a negative. Perhaps your ego is just too big for > > such things. > > > > Mark, you are dangerous. Your ego is going to get you and some unsuspecting > > individual(s) hurt. You make a point of knocking George Irvine and the > > WKPP for their style of cave diving, but fail to see that many of us wreck > > dive, and reef dive as well. We battle stiff currents here in south > > Florida. We use the same kit for cave diving as for wreck diving with some > > minor changes and additional equipment. > > > > The techniques and equipment configuration developed by Bill Main are > > intended to be streamlined and eliminate complexity that can contribute to > > an accident. You and others continue to negate these aspects of the > > Hogarthian philosophy. Open your eyes, George Irvine is concerned with one > > thing. Keeping divers from doing it wrong and getting themselves killed. > > Yes, that's right. SAFETY! No bullshit, no crap, no transpacks, just good > > thought out equipment design developed for the task of diving. Not to make > > some manufacturer rich. Not to provide a high profit margin for some "tech > > dive shop", but equipment that will work and allow you to survive and > > accident. He has seen too much horrifying propaganda that resulted in the > > death of his friends. Cave diving has nothing to do with it. Safety does. > > > > You do not get it and may never get it. For your sake, I hope George and > > the others continue to hammer you until you stop spewing such contorted ill > > conceived crap. > > > > Michael J. Kravit > > Boca Raton, Florida > > mkravit@mi*.co* > > (561) 394-6607 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > Please send messages for the WreckDiver list to: wreckdiver@wr*.co* > > Send subscription and help requests to: wreckdiver-request@wr*.co* > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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