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Subject: Re: An Observation
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 16:10:42 -0500
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@mi*.co*>
To: <RHFord@ao*.co*>, "Tech Diver" <techdiver@terra.net>
Hey, Dick-

How ya doing? It's Jim, SigSys customer? Hey, if you think this is 
anything like the AOL forum, well, you might as well unsubscribe right 
now. Believe me it is total chaos most of the time, cursing, flame wars, 
etc. You know what? After you listen in for a while I guarantee that you 
will learn something and even start enjoying the flamefests.

Before you make any snap judgements I recommend that you clam up and read 
to get the feel of things around here. And don't worry about NE divers, 
they are tough and can take care of themselves. At least I have not seen 
any start crying yet.

And just go ahead and get Georges "Doing It Right" video, it will explain 
a lot insofar as the redoubtable Mr. Irvine is concerned. Also, making a 
whiny post like this as your first introduction onto techdiver is 
probably a big mistake, and now it will take you a while to live it down.

So, sit back, pop a beer, listen for a while, make your next post a 
contribution rather than a pissy, moany, limp-wristed, whiney, panty 
waist, outrage diatribe. We have plenty of folks on this list who's JOB 
it is to do the whiney diatribes and they will get pissed if you horn in 
on their territory.

(mature discussion? Baaaahaaahahhaha!, your killing me, Dick!)

   Jim


>The reason I subscribed to the techdiver mailing list was to gain access to
>reasoned discussions on the things facing the ever expanding techdiving
>community; issues like rigging suggestions for various diving goals,
>equipment suitability as a function of dive type, anecdotes about the widely
>differing dive experiences of the posters, rebreathers and their use,
>interesting dive sites and/or dive operations, planning considerations for
>deep or other kinds of dives, you know stuff like that, interesting stuff.
>
>Frankly there has been very little reasoned discussion of these or any issue
>of interest to me personally.  Instead a very significant fraction of the
>list's recent bandwidth has been devoted to some kind of word war between two
>camps of people seemingly seperated by geography and spoken accent but
>clearly very closely related to each other in terms of any meaningful measure
>of relative maturity.
>
>Have I subscribed to the wrong mailing list?  Is the type of traffic one can
>normally expect from this list?  Will meaningfull (and mature) discussion
>ever actually dominate the list's re-posts?
>
>On an anecdotal level, I have dived with the Wahoo crew several times and
>have always found them to be accommodating, professional, and safe.
> Hopefully, I'll get the opportunity to dive with them in the future.

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