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From: <GarlooEnt@ao*.co*>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:18:32 -0500 (EST)
To: gmiiii@in*.co*
cc: techdiver@terra.net, wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co*, wahoo-diving@ju*.co*,
     wrekdive@ix*.ne*, wreckdiver@wr*.co*
Subject: Re: For the Record
no Putz you were there when you should not have been you were in a position
of responsibility that  your ego placed you in & you had insufficient
knowledge of the environment.
you know now i know what your real problem is you can't live with the fact
that you did not have the knowledge to(opps- look up) that day. not having
someone there with more experience that day certainly didn't help matters did
it george

you know you should realize that we all make mistakes at time & we have
learned from ours. one of the things i've learned is you don't throw the
rocks if you live in the glass house. so much for all your good shape
bullshit & ability to breath lightly what really matters to me is that the
people i dive with i would trust with my life & have . two of the people that
i would choose to  buddy with you would like to consign to the ovens. both
are over weight & women & there abilities , skill & courage outweigh any of
you midget ass bullshit.

hogarthian was here before you & will progress without you - maybe you should
either shut up or go back to the stock exchange with you other scumbag
buddies.

hank 


In a message dated 97-01-13 22:41:32 EST, you write:

<< Subj:	Re: For the Record
 Date:	97-01-13 22:41:32 EST
 From:	gmiiii@in*.co* (George Irvine)
 To:	JS1SUBAQUA@ao*.co*
 CC:	techdiver@terra.net, cavers@ge*.co*
 
 
  Joel, the "tarp" thing is a reference to ginie Springs and other places -
we 
 have no tarps - we have vans with carpet and cd players. We listen to
Metallica 
 while we gear up, and we do not get anything dirty. We put our dryuists on
in 
 the airconditioning, and keep everythig neat and clean. 
 
  Tarps are for dumb red necks who like to take the dirt home wtih them to
their 
 trailers. 
 
  By the way, if you took the captains hats off of their greasy heads, you
could 
 not distinguish your fat slobs from our fat slobs until they talked with
their 
 Brooklyn accents.
 
  How do all of these guys know so much about us ? They have things a tad
screwed 
 up, but they at least know about each little thing. Take that Parker thing -

 they knew I was there, and yet thought I was a safety diver - I set them up 
 (Parker and Gavin), with Bill Main and Lamar English. 
 
   Lamar and I had to call our dive, as it turned out the cave went deeper
than 
 we thought, and had mixed the wrong gas, so did our job and then went
downstream 
 where it is shallower. The cave collapsed behind us without us knowing it,
and 
 we did not even find out when we checked on them before we got out - we just
saw 
 that they were not back yet.
  
   The "safety" divers alerted us that something was wrong, and we went back
to 
 see. I found Gavin , but could not find Parker, and the place had gone to
zero 
 vis. I tried , but Gavin wrote me a note that he was dead, but I still tried

 eight more times. Not having ever been to the cave before, I did not know
about 
 the domes in the ceiling, where he was.
 
    Since all of the divers who were in the water that day except for Bill
Main 
 have quit diving, and he stays away form the serious stuff, maybe that tells
you 
 something. It took JJ to get me back in the water, and then it took me
several 
 months to get Gavin back, and then he quit anyway.
 
    I remember writing in my logbook that this might be my last cave dive -
it 
 was number 77. 
 
    The fact is that anyone who has any authority to grant me access to
anything 
 does so with the knowledge that I am a serious guy, and will not put up with
any 
 bullshit from anyone, like what goes on with Garvink, Bebilinda and the
other 
 fat slob, or their counterparts in cave diving - the dumb red necks.
 
     We stopped guessing a long time ago - we do it right. - G 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, JS1SUBAQUA@ao*.co* wrote:
 >yer doing it again --- you may be just better off dealing with the duck
grass
 >swimming , trailer livin, tarp stomping assholes in the florida springs
first
 >----
 >
 >That IS an area you are familiar with ----- 
 >
 >Rise above it George, you know better 
 >
 >Joel
 >
 >
 
 
 George M. Irvine III
  

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