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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 10:42:34 -0800
From: George Irvine <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Subject: Re: DEMA
To: Barry Miller <rat@ne*.co*>,
     "'freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*'"
    
Cc: "'cavers@ge*.co*'" <cavers@ge*.co*>,
     "'techdiver@terra.net'"
    

 Barry, CIS has nothing to hide, but they were correct in assuming that I was 
about to point to the evidence of cluelessness about the application, and 
incorect in assuming that I had not already completely reviewed the machine the 
day before. These guys forget that most of what they copied came from Bill 
Gavin's EX-19 work (my former dive partner) and that none of us care other than 
as a curriosity - we have our own rebreathers and they cave dive right here and 
now WTIH NO EXCUSES, can be bought right here and now, and are the only new 
technology in  rebreathers in 48 years. I have not seen the dive that I can not 
do with my rebreather, and will entertain no bullshit about any others - that 
limp-wristed-limey who had his panties in a wad was a weenie named "Nigel" 
(aren't they all), who is too freaking stupid to understand that if I wanted to 
know what was what with the CIS, I would phone Bill Stone and ask him, and he 
would tell me.

  What Nigel and the rest of the bonesmugglers also do not understand is that I 
am the only one out there (other than Rob Palmer) who is giving anyone any hope 
that these devices can be safely produced, sold, and used, and that Isler and 
WKPP are the ones who are proving it, and Bill Stone would be the first to
agree 
with that concept. 

   Somebody has to step up and pet the first pony, and pussies like Nigel can 
SMD , while we laugh with the pony. - G
  

On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Barry Miller <rat@ne*.co*> wrote:
>      The best thing that happened at DEMA was when George, Brent, and myself 
were at the Cis-Lunar Booth. While we were there looking at their unit, the guy 
came up to us and shoved George away and said he had seen enough. I thought the 
whole reason for DEMA was to show your product? What were they trying to hide? 
The people at Brownies were happy to show you everything about their rig and 
answer any questions. My only conclusion was that it was OK to inspect it if 
they could lie to you and get away with it. Maybe we can get Rich to tell us 
what the Cis-Lunar people were trying to hide?
>
>Barry
>
>


George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
Woodville Karst Plain Project
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*


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