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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 10:22:29 -0800
From: George Irvine <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Subject: D.E.M.A. SHOW
To: cavers@ge*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net

   I was at DEMA Friday and Saturday, but did not get to make the full rounds. 
We split up and tied to spend time with each of our sponors, but that was
tough. 
Most of the time we we at Brownies for the Halcyon display. 

   I saw nothing new, other than the CIS Lunar latest (courtesy of Dr. Z), and
a 
few cosmetic jobs on bullshit crap rebreathers. What is supposed to be new is 
not yet on the market, like the latest Scuba Pro 500 reg. DUI had the combo 
TLS/CF suit. Scuba Pro had the electric underwear.

   Terry Tysall has a good organization going , and so do some other project 
guys that were there. 

   Scuba Pro bought Uwatec. Gilliam  told me that Patti Mount is now President 
of IANTD, and Bill Deans has some other title.

   We had the only new rebreather technology, Stone had the only new attempt at 
solving the sensor problem (blowing dry gas over them - he used to heat them, 
and before that he had Rosary Beads attached to them. We still have the only 
cave-diving rebreather (until proven otherwise). Everybody is promising new 
scooters - we still have the only one that is a proven winner. A Brazillian 
bought my demo model from the show, and a few people tried to buy my personal 
scooter, but I like it too much to sell it, and it has been too many places
with 
me.

    Rat (Barry Miller) had the backup light - a sure winner, and a much needed 
addition to technical diving gear, but again, guess who had to develop that
(the 
WKPP ). 

    There were a few Menduno rebreather forums. First they did not want me on 
the panel due to the usual problem - fear of a hammering, which they got
anyway. 
Then the next day the said my technology was new and unproven. Of course, not a 
single other rebreather has been used for long range deep cave diving, other 
than Olivier Isler's , which works on exactly the same principle as mine (RMV)
, 
and as we know in cave and tech diving, nothing is more humilliating to the 
talkers than the doers.

     I saw quite a few of my favorite buddies, like Mike Madden, and made a few 
new ones. 

      I can say this about the "community" - it was REAL interesting to see who 
was at the Aquatic Center YMCA at 6:00 am each day to work out or swim , and
who 
was walking around looking like death from their stupidity the night before . I 
went early to be sure to get a lane, and ended up having to pull my Masters
card 
to get in a workout in the long course meters pool, there were so many people
in 
there, and the machines were full as well. Real interesting, and real 
interesting who is still trying to argue this concept with me.

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
Woodville Karst Plain Project
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*


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