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From: "Michael J. Kravit, AIA" <mkravit@mi*.co*>
To: "Mark Welzel" <mwelzel@st*.co*>, <adb@he*.re*.or*>
Cc: <techdiver@terra.net>, <wreckdiver@wr*.co*>
Subject: Re: My goodness!
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:15:43 -0500
Mark wrote among other things.....

> My sometimes unpopular belief that no penetration lines
> should be run into a wreck stems from my feeling that
> you should not count on that line being there to guide
> you out. Someone might cut it for any number of reasons,
> it might be cut on the wreck or you may lose it in poor
> visibility or due to malfunctioning light(s).

Mark,

Well it might not also. But on the other hand it might just save your God
damned ass.


> I think that progressive penetration is the only way to
> safely explore a wreck. It does take time and dedication.
> You need to learn all you can about the wreck, study
> deck plans. other's drawings and you mostly need to
> develop skills that will help you identify wreck layouts
> and landmarks. This way no matter what happens to your
> line, you can find your way out of the wreck and back
> to the anchor line.

I still fail to see why having an extra safety feature such as a line in
your opinion would be a negative. Perhaps your ego  is just too big for
such things. 

Mark, you are dangerous. Your ego is going to get you and some unsuspecting
individual(s) hurt.  You make a point of knocking George Irvine and the
WKPP for their style of cave diving, but fail to see that many of us wreck
dive, and reef dive as well. We battle stiff currents here in south
Florida. We use the same kit for cave diving as for wreck diving with some
minor changes and additional equipment. 

The techniques and equipment configuration developed by Bill Main are
intended to be streamlined and eliminate complexity that can contribute to
an accident. You and others continue to negate these aspects of the
Hogarthian philosophy.  Open your eyes, George Irvine is concerned with one
thing. Keeping divers from doing it wrong and getting themselves killed.
Yes, that's right. SAFETY! No bullshit, no crap, no transpacks, just good
thought out equipment design developed for the task of diving. Not to make
some manufacturer rich. Not to provide a high profit margin for some "tech
dive shop", but equipment that will work and allow you to survive and
accident. He has seen too much horrifying propaganda that resulted in the
death of his friends. Cave diving has nothing to do with it. Safety does.

You do not get it and may never get it. For your sake, I hope George and
the others continue to hammer you until you stop spewing such contorted ill
conceived crap.

Michael J. Kravit
Boca Raton, Florida
mkravit@mi*.co*
(561) 394-6607


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