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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:59:50 -0500 (EST)
To: mark@mr*.co*
From: Alex Varouxis <alexv@er*.co*>
Subject: Re: Doing it Right (or I wanna be a hero)
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Mark

The amount of cable and the structure of a cave make this impossible. The
tether would get tangled the ROV would kick up of silt. In this case a diver
can do many times the amount of work than an ROV. The next problem would be
the cost of the insurance for the ROV being used in a cave.

Regards Alex


At 02:39 PM 1/2/97 -0500, Mark Welzel wrote:
>George, if you guys are so interested in DOING IT RIGHT and
>SAFETY can you tell me why you risk your lives when ROV's
>could do a better safer job exploring those nasty caves. Hell,
>you would probably be done by now and could get on to some
>other worthwhile project with your "team".
>
>But, of course YOU wouldn't have the end of the line, your
>robot's would. It would be the BEST way, though. And you are
>a stickler for BEST, regardless of cost. Or are there areas
>where even you will weigh cost vs. risk?
>
>You are not the be all, end all. But you do make interesting
>reading.
>
>Mark
>
>George Irvine wrote:
>> 
>>  Mike, you are engaging in a battle of wits with an unamrmed opponent - the
>> "Boat Monkee". Like I told this guy the first time he ever posted on here,
>> "Stick to what you know : making sandwiches and cleaning up puke". If you
need
>> any advice on that, talk to Weezel, otherwise you are only going to get more
>> abject boat monkee stupidity, like what we see from the other dock
wizzards and
>> pontificating walking brain dead that populate the New England waterfront.
>> 
>>   As Tom Clancy pointed out in Red Storm Rising", " The Andria Doria is just
>> shallow enough for amateurs to try it", and we seee proof of this every
time one
>> of these bus drivers opens his mouth.
>> 
>>    If it were not for the fact that stupidity kills (and these assholes
have the
>>  hash marks to prove it), I would ignore them, but in my opinion, they are
>> problem in this sport (wreck diving) and need to be sterilized by those of us
>> who have a modicum  of common sense.
>> 
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, <Tennantm@ao*.co*> wrote:
>> >Mark wrote:
>> >
>> >>By the same token, you should then expect a hose
>> >>that is 2 and a half times longer to fail 2 and
>> >>a half times more often.
>> >
>> >Hey Joel, could you or one of the other downstate guys take Mark to the clue
>> >bar?  He needs a few.
>> >
>> >Mike
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>> >
>> 
>> George M. Irvine III
>> DIR WKPP
>> Woodville Karst Plain Project
>> 1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
>> 954-493-6655 FAX 6698
>> Email gmiiii@in*.co*
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Regards
Alex Varouxis
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