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Joe, excellent story on the quarry and the wreck accidents - this is great information, and exactly what people need to hear, as opposed to the macho know it all crap we get from the crews of eh New England dive boats - Wezel is a mate on one of them - anybody suprised. The more these stopkes run their mouths, the more my recommendation of hiring a real boat loks pretty smart, and the more the concept of not violating rule number one is again and again proven to be sound advice. Unlike you, I see no reason to be polite about it, but your stories make great reading, including your sump diving stories. Almost all of my personal air shares have been wreck diving and the out of air divers were not even on the same boat I was on, and in all cases they were inside the wrecks and needed the hose to pass through to opoen water. Some of our own (s. florida) worst horror stories involved not being able to rescue trapped divers from wrecks due to the gear configuration of both the victim and the person attempting the rescue - all know it alls as well, and almost always involving dive boat crews. Crews need to know that newer divers are looking to them for information, and the pros need to point out a stroke when they see one - I always do. Just to refresh everyone's memory , a stroke is somebady whose attitude is "me and only me,", and who has no clue (that is how they got the attitude), and they will usually be deep air diving, pontificating wizzards of bullshit. What they are telegraphing with this attitude is that they are actually hoffified weenies who would not help you with any amount of hose, and whose personal phobias, stuidity, and lack of skill dictate their actions - Rule Number One - don't dive with strokes. The bullshit gear is your fisrt warning sign. In cave diving, this is a foolproof indicator, and has saved many lives of those who heed it. George M. Irvine III DIR WKPP Woodville Karst Plain Project 1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316 954-493-6655 FAX 6698 Email gmiiii@in*.co*
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