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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:00:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Training
To: LLoyd Bailey <afn44679@af*.or*>
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*, "IANTD" <iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*>, techdiver@terra.net
	

 Lloyd - this is what I was talking about with the "California" cave 
instructors.I think we have sufficient grounds to not issue NACD certification 
to students of Frans effective retroactively, and I will be requesting that and 
a removal of his "instructor" status at the next BOD meeting. 

 This is why we have problems out there, and I do not care whose feelings I
hurt 
- this guy is the kind of idiot I want out of the sport. 


On 13 Nov 1996, "Graeme Davison" <graeme_davison@ne*.co*> wrote:
>Subject:RE>>Training
>
>
>>   Also, his bullshit about not being able to scooter in a drysuit is very
>>real - he is telling students things like that becasue he is an ignorant >
>
>This post is late as I have just got back from Florida and am in catch up - I
>met Franz whilstat Laceys and he told me :-
>
>1. You can't scooter in a dry suit - too much drag
>2. AUL lights don't work at depth - thats why they need three clips and two O
>rings as the tops leak
>3. He was proud of the fact that his Neutralight died on him once whilst an a
>cave "training" course and he did the dive on a Q40 - this was after he and his
>student had forgotten to pack their primary lights one day (we spotted them
>after they had left in the morning) and they both did the "training" dive on
>only two lights
>
>Luckily we managed to avoid the rebreather discussion one evening and the
>general pontificating etc that seemed to be going on each night ....
>
>                     Mail Address : graeme_davison@ne*.co*
>                            BSAC : IANTD : NSS-CD
>                     
>
>

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