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This was an e-mail i received from Capt Janet that i think a few people could benefit by reading. dive on & on hank Subj: wreck anchoring Date: 96-11-08 11:15:29 EST From: wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co* (Captain Janet C Bieser) To: garlooent@ao*.co* JerkyDiver@ao* wrote Makes you wonder about the Nor'east wreckers who claim to launch a 100# lift bag on 5/16 sisal from 200 feet and then deco on it in a 2.5 kt current! One of the local wrecks that has been bouyed, has a 55 gallon drum up from the mast (170') to 30 feet. In the middle of a dive one day the Stream moved in and pulled the drum down to where it was crushed and had to be replaced. When we hook into a wreck and the boat feels like it just came up on plane, we call the dive. Then of course, when the current is ripping you usually have warm, clear water, a luxury the Union boys don't get! - Tony -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. hank this guy is talking about the wilksbarr , they should use net floats they don't crush down to some tremendous depth 10,000 feet, that's what we use hank, these guys are hysterically funny. they do not understand , compared to down south YOU CANT SEE SHIT under water . we have to use a fathometer to find the wrecks, not a diver on a rope. If you do not have the grapple waiting on the wreck (neatly balanced on the shallowest part) the mate comes up and gives you that beaten dog, betrayed look . And then you have to start all over with fresh mate having wasted the first guys dive and ruined his day. If you try to grapple and snag the wreck you waste hours ripping hunks of steel off the wreck or straitening out the tines of the grapple(50 tons of boat). On a smaller boat you have NO business being out there. sometimes when you send a lift bag up to hang on, the fudging thing never reaches the surface because of the current. then you have to swim up the line and add additional lift bag that is why you carry two reels and two large volume lift bags . we take ordinary basic divers to the san diego ( 70'-120') and sometimes the current is so strong that the wahoo is throwing a wake at anchor( but is only .75 kt) our people are used to this and( unless they are new and don't know how to act) every one is fine and has a good time . The "nantucket wreck" is notorious for towing 52 inch tuna balls under and you have to go follow the rope into the sand off the wreck and send them up with lift bags when and if the current subsides. this is why using the dive boat as the float at the top of the down line is the best way to make sure the down line is the up line. ( also handy for in water oxygen whips) not having people scattered like popcorn popped with no lid. when you steam 5,9,or 16 hours to reach a dive sight , you are not leaving because of a little fog, or current, or waves, and you dam well better not get lost and not come up the anchor line or you will sleep with the fishes. might as well pretend you are in a cave and the anchor line is the opening . come up any where else in the fog and the current and there is a good chance you will spent your last hours on the planet earth alone( or with a dive partner) ,and cold in a dry suit full of urine and feces.in spite of the best efforts of all to find you. except you may get some unwelcome company as the sun sets, company with fins. The water is nice down south , if visibility sucks they cancel charters. they use smaller boats( be cause they can) it dose not get rough as often, they can pick and chose from a vast amount of nice calm days , so they just don't go if its rough. pulling your self down a line hand over hand is possible in a lot more current than you can swim in , you dive in the lee of the wreck and use a leash or jon line to hang clipped to your harness (like being towed by a scooter) , a nice amount of current is convenient to keep everyone from clanging into each other on the hang.I bet no one down there has snapped 3/4 inch chain or shackles ( or 1" 1/2 nylon) on a wavy day, when its snotty out its smarter to bridle anchor, the load is distributed between two anchors and you can put out a nice amount of scope with out your poor customers having a thousand foot swim to reach the bottom. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- From wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co* Fri Nov 8 11:15:09 1996 Return-Path: wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co* Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by emin24.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA29860 for <garlooent@ao*.co*>; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:15:08 -0500 Received: (from wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co*) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id LAA08939; Fri, 08 Nov 1996 11:11:57 EST this was sent to me By Capt Janet & i thik it's worth reading. dive on & on hank To: garlooent@ao*.co* Subject: wreck anchoring Message-ID: <19961108.110033.9254.0.Wahoo-Capt.Janet@ju*.co*> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5,7,9-11,13-19,22-25,45,70 From: wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co* (Captain Janet C Bieser) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 11:11:57 EST --------------------- Forwarded message: From: wahoo-capt.janet@ju*.co* (Captain Janet C Bieser) To: garlooent@ao*.co* Date: 96-11-08 11:15:29 EST JerkyDiver@ao* wrote Makes you wonder about the Nor'east wreckers who claim to launch a 100# lift bag on 5/16 sisal from 200 feet and then deco on it in a 2.5 kt current! One of the local wrecks that has been bouyed, has a 55 gallon drum up from the mast (170') to 30 feet. In the middle of a dive one day the Stream moved in and pulled the drum down to where it was crushed and had to be replaced. When we hook into a wreck and the boat feels like it just came up on plane, we call the dive. Then of course, when the current is ripping you usually have warm, clear water, a luxury the Union boys don't get! - Tony -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. hank this guy is talking about the wilksbarr , they should use net floats they don't crush down to some tremendous depth 10,000 feet, that's what we use hank, these guys are hysterically funny. they do not understand , compared to down south YOU CANT SEE SHIT under water . we have to use a fathometer to find the wrecks, not a diver on a rope. If you do not have the grapple waiting on the wreck (neatly balanced on the shallowest part) the mate comes up and gives you that beaten dog, betrayed look . And then you have to start all over with fresh mate having wasted the first guys dive and ruined his day. If you try to grapple and snag the wreck you waste hours ripping hunks of steel off the wreck or straitening out the tines of the grapple(50 tons of boat). On a smaller boat you have NO business being out there. sometimes when you send a lift bag up to hang on, the fudging thing never reaches the surface because of the current. then you have to swim up the line and add additional lift bag that is why you carry two reels and two large volume lift bags . we take ordinary basic divers to the san diego ( 70'-120') and sometimes the current is so strong that the wahoo is throwing a wake at anchor( but is only .75 kt) our people are used to this and( unless they are new and dont know how to act) every one is fine and has a good time . The "nantucket wreck" is notorious for towing 52 inch tuna balls under and you have to go follow the rope into the sand off the wreck and send them up with lift bags when and if the current subsides. this is why using the dive boat as the float at the top of the down line is the best way to make sure the down line is the up line. ( also handy for in water oxyen whips) not having people scattered like popcorn popped with no lid. when you steam 5,9,or 16 hours to reach a dive sight , you are not leaving because of a little fog, or current, or waves, and you dam well better not get lost and not come up the anchor line or you will sleep with the fishes. might as well pretend you are in a cave and the anchor line is the opening . come up any where else in the fog and the current and there is a good chance you will spent your last hours on the planet earth alone( or with a dive partner) ,and cold in a dry suit full of urine and feces.in spite of the best efforts of all to find you. except you may get some unwelcome company as the sun sets, company with fins. The water is nice down south , if visibility sucks they cancel charters. they use smaller boats( be cause they can) it dose not get rough as often, they can pick and chose from a vast amount of nice calm days , so they just don't go if its rough. pulling your self down a line hand over hand is possible in a lot more current than you can swim in , you dive in the lee of the wreck and use a leash or jon line to hang clipped to your harness (like being towed by a scooter) , a nice amount of current is convenient to keep everyone from clanging into each other on the hang.I bet no one down there has snapped 3/4 inch chain or shackles ( or 1" 1/2 nylon) on a wavey day, when its snotty out its smarter to bridle anchor, the load is distributed between two anchors and you can put out a nice amount of scope with out your poor customers having a thousand foot swim to reach the bottom.
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