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George I resect what you do and I understand your logic I respond because you attempt to discredit anyone who thinks different than you do and you do your best to rob us of our personal freedom and use of our own thinking processes to decide what is in our best interest You wrote: > > > > Why we do not butt-mount lights: > >1) We use this position to tow scooters and to tow buddy in an emergency - his >head is tucked in behind the tanks. We also keep the exploration reel there >sometimes, and or the liftbag in wreck diving. GEORGE , IF YOU REMEMBER i'M THEONEWHO INTRODUCED CARRYING A LIFT BAG AT THE BASE OF THE BACKPLATE AND I DO IT BOTH WHEN I BUTTMOUNT AND WHEN I WAIST MOUNT, IT WORKS GREAT. THE LIGHT IS HIGH ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN STILL TOW AND YOU CAN PUT A REEL THERE. I ACCEPT THAT FOR TEAM UNIFORMITY AND YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE IT IS NOT WHAT YOU LIKE, BUT IT IS SAFE AND YOU CAN DO THESE THINGS.AS YOU HAVE STATED NUMEROUS TIMES YOU HAVE NOT EVENB TRIED BUTTMOUNTING. I DO BOTH SO FEEL MY POIUNTS ARE MUCH MORE VALID THAN YOURS > >2) We do not plaster our tanks with d-rings and convoluted crap like what is >required to butt mount. > IT TAKES ONE HOSE CLAMOP AND ONE D RING PER SIDE OR YOU CAB ACTUALLY DO IT AS GLENN FORREST DOES AND NOT EVEN USE RINGS ON THE CYLINDERS >3) We do not use metal to metal connections of any kind, and we do not clip >things behind us that can not be unclipped from the front with one hand by >reaching through - in the case of the scooter, it is clipped to the front and >pushed back through. GEORGE I CAN UNHOOK MY LIGHT AND PRACTICE DOING SO, I HAVE AT THIS TIME A RIDE ON AUL DPV SO I DO NOT TOW IT > > *** By the way, whoever is the moron of the century that is teaching people >to put brass rings with brass clips around tanks necks needs to be shot on sight >- how stupid are these guys?*** >THESE ARE MANUFACTIRED IN NEW ENGLAND, I HAVE TRIED THEM BUT I AGREE THAT THE LINE IS A MUCH BETTER WAY OF SECURING THEM >4) We do not have loose things or entangling devices behind us that can not be >freed from the front with one hand and one motion. THE BUTTLIGHT IS THE ONLY THING THERE AND IT SHOULD FIT SECURELY NOT BOUNCE AROUND > >5) We do not sit on our lights, bang them on tanks, or have any sloppy gear. >YOU ONLY SIT LONG ENOUGH FOR THE LIGHT OT SLIDE BACK ABOUT A 1/10 OF A SECOND, IT IS SURE MORE STREAMLINED THAT A WAIST LIGHT, AS I SAID I DIVE BOTH WAYS AS YOU ARE AWARE OF >6) We do not expose our lights to damage of the cord, switch, or lid >IF YOU RUN THE CORD UNDER THE WAIST STRAP IT SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED TO MORE DAMAGE , THERE IS MOST LIKELY A HIGHER POSSIBILTY OF DAMAGING A BUTTLIGHT THOUGH IT HAS NOT HAPPENED TO ME YET >7) We do not put heavy objects on our legs (or on our knees in the case of >121's), and we are not stupid enough to use the Neutralite (which is neutral, >but square). We need the extra weight of the Gavin light, but in the right place >MY LIGHT FITS AGAINST MY THIGH IN BOTH 108 AND 121 I USE MODULAR AND AUL LIGHTS TO BUTTMOUNT WITH >8) We do not use extra long cords that catch on everything just so we can put >the light in the wrong place >AGAIN IF YOU RUN THE CORD UNDER THE WAIST STRAP THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE >9) We do not reach behind us to turn on our lights , and we do not want them >knocked off at an inopportune moment because the switch, cord, and interface are >not protected. We are not stupid enough to use a twist-on light head, an MRI >light head, or any other silliness like it. >WELL GEORGE GUESS WE DIFFER I HAVE BOTH SWITCH AND TWIST ON HEADS I USE PRIMARULY H1 HEADS WHICH ARE ADJUSTABLE AND I PREFER THE TWIST ON HEAD TO THE SWITCH, >10) The concept of "less drag' is total bullshit - the light on the hip is in >the lee of the shoulder where it is protected. The less drag bullshittters do no >real diving and do not know what they are talking about - it just looks good to >them because , like monkeys, they saw some other brain-dead moron doing it OH GEORGE EVERYONE REALIZES YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO EVER DID A DIVE SO I WILL LET THIS ONE FLOAT, YOU SHOW YOUR OWN LIKE OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU HAVE NOT EVEN USED ONE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT SOMEONE IN THE WATER TO SEE THE BUTTLIGHT IS LESS DRAGE THIS IS THE ONLY PORTION OF YOUR ARGUEMENT THAT I CONSIDER AS DOWNRIGHT STUPID > >11) We park our long hose under the canister in its routing. The long hose does >not need the canister to sit properly, but it is much neeter, and the hose will >be tight to that point and not catch anything. The hose is where it is because >the whole system is built together - a different subject - we have worked all of >this out for every kind of diving, and do not change one thing as it causes >something else and then something else to be changed, and pretty soon you are >back to nothing functional. >I RUN MY LONG HOSE BEHIND THE WINGS AND THEN CROSS CHEST AND 1/4 WRAP AROUND NECK JUST AS YOU DO, WHEN I WAIST MOUNT IT IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT YOU DO, BUT EVEN BUTT MOUNTED IT WORKS PERFECTLY WELL >12) The cord routing is a real mess and interferes with the stages and all of >the other gear, or requires some hideous convolution of routing to keep it out >of the scooter wash, out of the wreck or rocks, and generally out of trouble, >and then you have some completely unsafe mess on your hands. >I HAVE NOT HAD PROBLEMS WITH UP TO FOUR STAGES, I HAVE NEVER TRIED MORE THAN THAT AND RARELY HAVE MORE THAN 3 USUALLY 2 >13) Only a complete and utter stroke would butt mount, and you will find that >those who do either are 1) complete idiots, 2) have copied or been taught by an >idiot, or 3) sell dive gear and can make the most money off of this ridiculous >horseshit, which they will tell you ususally requires a list of horrendous crap >so expensive as to equal the price of real gear plus a scooter. Your instructor >is then riding YOUR scooter, and don't forget it. >YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT THAT IT IS HUMOROUS, THE LIGHT FOR BUTTMOUNTING IS THE SAME PRICE AS WHEN YOU WAIST MOUNT EXCEPT THE COST OF TWO HOSE CLAMPS AND 2 D RINGS >14) If you can name one guy who does any serious diving like this, I will kiss >your ass in Macy's window . >BE CAREFUL GEORGE YOU MAY ATTRACT A CROWD THEN AGAIN REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE DOES IN THEY ARE NOT AT THEN END OF THE LINE IN WAKULLA IN YOUR OPNION THEY ARE NOYT A DIVER, WHICH I GUESS MEANS ONLY A FEW OF US THAT CAN DIVE WITH WKPP ARE CONSIDERED AS DIVERS >15) Just ask whoever taught you this stupidity about their biggest dive, how >much gas it took, how long it took, and put it on here so we can all get a huge >laugh. >WHAT DOES THIS STATEMENT HAVE TO DO WITH LIGHTS YOU CAN GO JUST AS FAR WITH A BUTT MOUNT. A WAIST MOUNT OR A BACKPLATE MOUNTED LIGHT, THE DISTANCE IS DUE TO A GOOD DPV STREAMLINED DIVING, BALLS, DESIRE AND ADEQUATE GAS AND SAFE EQUIPMENT >16) Look at my video , "Doing It Right", and tell me what you think. >CHECK OUT THE IANTD VIDEO AND SEE A VARIETY OF SAFE APPROACHES NOT JUST ONE >17) If you flood a butt light, or in the case of the dive rite, WHEN you flood >it, the thing becomes extremely negative and casues the associated problems >being in that position. >HOW WOULD YOU KNOW I CERTAINLY HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT >18) Butt Mounters demonstrate a total lack of forsight and dive planning >comprehension - tantamount to an admission of strokery, and according to rule >number one, we do not dive with strokes. >BUT US STROKES REALLY ENJOY DIVING >19) If you have been stupid enough to do this or teach it, it is time to admit >you are wrong, and "do it right". >I TEACH IT AND WAIST MOUNTING AND I REALLY DO ADVOCATE MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND AFTER DIGESTING SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, IT IS YOUR SAFETY, YOUR COMFORT AND YOUR LIFE YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS AFTER CAREFUL ANALYSIS WHETHER YOU OPT FOR WAIST MOUNT OR BUTT MOUINT OR BACKPLATE MOUNT IT IS WHAT YOU EVALUATE THAT SHOULD BE INCOPORATED INTO YOUR SYSTEM > >REMEMBER NO ONE CAN BREATH, SWIM OR THINK FOR YOU EXCEPT YOU GEORGE QUIT TRYING TO THINK FOR US, IF YOU WOULD LEAVE YOUR POST AT THE WHY INSTEAD OF SHOOTING AT EVERYONE WHO DOES DIFFERENTLY YOU WOULD BE ALOT MORE EFFECTIVE. ON THE FEW REASONS NOT BLAHS BLAHS YOU GAVE YOU MAKE GOOD POINTS AND THEY SHOULD BE DIGESTED. I STATE I DIVE 60 % BUTTMOUNT AND 40% WAIST MOUNT IT HAS BECOME MORE LIKE 50 50 FOR SOME OF THE REASONS NOT THE SLAMS YOU MAKE. IT MOST SITUTATIONS THOUGH I DO PREFER BUTTMOUNT AND ON RIDE ON DPV I PREFER TO CARRY STAGES ON BOT SIDES WHEREAS ON A TOW BEHIBND IT IS MORE EFFICIENT TO CARRY ALL IF POSSIBLE STAGES ON THE LEFT OR TOWED IT IS NOT THAT I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF YOUR LOGIC IT IS I DISAGREE WITH YOUR BOOM APPROACH THAT ELIMINATES THE USE OF A PERSONS OWN INTELLECT IN DECIDING WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM, FREEDOM IS A GREAT PRIVELEDGE AND I PERSONALLY RESENT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO SUPPRESS FREEDOM FROM PEOPLE TOM > >
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