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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:21:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Roderick Farb <rfarb@em*.un*.ed*>
To: Peter Heseltine <heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*>
cc: Kevin-Neil Klop <kevink@ap*.co*>,
     Richard Pyle , techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Scooters and sharks
Marco, in fact, designed his computer to be just like mine- and,
therefore, I deserve much of the credit for saving his life.

On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Peter Heseltine wrote:

> K-N,
> 
> Marco told the newspapers, reported by the LA Times, that his life had
> been "saved by his Desert Star computer". I saw a photo of him grinning
> and holding up a rather scratched computer similar to Rod Farb's.
> 
> Bruce (whose real name is Mr. Earl) in an interview to the NY Post later
> in the week, stated tearfully that he was the victim of a hit and run
> attack by a speeding scooterist who had clubbed him in passing with a
> large metal object, clearly designed to confuse the lateral line organ of
> fish. A spokesfish for GreenPeas allowed that there were at least three
> similar anecdotes of human attacks on sharks by drive-by scooterists,
> noting the infamous one on the pregnant tigershark in Hawaii some years
> ago. When asked if this could all be the result of a misunderstanding of
> species, Bruce said "It was his laugh as he did it that convinced me that
> man is without morals where fish are concerned"
> 
> On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Kevin-Neil Klop wrote:
> 
> > Locally documented shark attack:
> >
> > Dramatis Personae:
> >
> > Marco Flagg, proprietor of Desert Star Systems
> > Bruce, the great white chark
> >
> > Marco, diving solo, was scootering, when he sighted a large, greyish,
> > pectoral fin and sinister (as in "left" - don't start the Jaws theme song
> > yet ::grin::) side of some fishy creature.  Deciding that it appeared
> > similar to descriptions he'd heard of great whites, he turned and started
> > back to the boat that was moored a distance laterally and approximately 50
> > feet vertically from his position.
> >
> > At some point during his transit to the boat, he was attacked by the shark
> > and ended up with stitches at various locations from elbow to (if I
> > remember correctly) his knee.
> >
> > Possible contributory factors:
> >
> > 1) The scooter.  Perhaps noise, perhaps the EMF
> > 2) Rather than going along the bottom and doing the two sides of the
> > triangle, Marco elected to scooter along the hypotenuse, presenting a
> > back-lit silhouette to a shark that likes to attack from underneath.
> >
> > Conclusions:
> >
> > None, a single report doesn't make for good science ::grin::  However, you
> > DID ask for an incident report.
> >
> > At 8:44 AM -0900 10/29/96, Peter Heseltine wrote:
> > >Well, yes I know that when people do almost anything at the surface, it
> > >attracts sharks if they are there and it has been suggested that sharks
> > >are able to sense EMF. No doubt our resident fish nerd can give us the
> > >actual science behind this ;-) But what I wanted to know was has anyone
> > >with a scooter actually been attacked? Shark attacks are pretty rare and
> > >surfers seem to be the most frequent group, probably because they look
> > >like yummy flotsam. Are there any data on shark attacks on scootering
> > >folk?
> > >
> > >This may have as much basis in fact as the Chupacabra.
> > >
> > >pH
> > >
> > >On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, scott schneeweis wrote:
> > >
> > >> The research I have seen indicates that EMF (Electromagnetic Fields)
> > >>generated
> > >> by the scooter are sensed at considerable range by sharks and may incite
> > >>them
> > >> to attack.
> > >>
> > >> At 11:13 PM 10/28/96 -0800, Peter Heseltine wrote:
> > >> >Bob,
> > >> >
> > >> >What actual evidence is there that scooters attract sharks? Is it just
> > >> >the Predator name that pisses them off,;-) or is there anything like a
> > >> >frequency?
> > >> >
> > >> >Think what the film boys could save in boats and chum if this were true!
> > >> >
> > >> >pH
> > >> >
> > >> >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Bob Favorite wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Not all of us open water guys use scooters.  Some people believe they
may
> > >> >> attract sharks...and we pride ourselves on being able to swim ;).  If
you
> > >> >> dive where I do you don't go out of your way to attract sharks...
> > >> >
> > >> >? Davis?
> > >> >
> > >> >--
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> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >     *******************************************************************
> > >     * Peter Heseltine, M.D., F.A.C.P.                                 *
> > >     * Professor of Medicine                                           *
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> >
> > Each new day's but a chance to regret the things I wish I had done...
> > Here's hoping I have fewer regrets as the years roll by!
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
>      *******************************************************************
>      * Peter Heseltine, M.D., F.A.C.P.                                 *
>      * Professor of Medicine                                           *
>      * University of Southern California        LAC+USC Medical Center *
>      * Tel: 213/226-6705                       1200 North State Street *
>      * Fax: 213/226-2479                    Los Angeles, CA 90033-1084 *
>      * Eml: heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*                                   USA *
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